Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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jchaosmaster Jul 22, 2023 @ 2:24pm
Legit class questions
I enjoyed the show as much as everyone else but I can say the game play sounds like it will be fun. In skyrim my fav game style is 1 handed/ light armor/ summoner style. Will that be somewhat possible in this game.
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Czartchonn Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:16pm 
Summoning stuff is not really a thing in 5E. Only a few spells conjure creatures to fight for you. Lots of options to melee while casting spells and wearing armor. Even a wizard/sorceror can do that with the right race.
Hobocop Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:18pm 
You might be able to make it work with a Beastmaster Ranger as they have the appropriate proficiencies out of the box and can summon an animal companion.
Recjawjind Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
Probably the best option for this specific build is a melee beastmaster ranger. You get to summon a companion, and be an effective dex based melee combatant, in light armor.

Grab a rapier and a shield and you'll do just fine.
GrandMajora Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:24pm 
Some races get proficiency in a few weapon and armor styles that aren't normally available to their class. So if you want to be a dedicated spell caster who can also engage enemies in melee, that is entirely possible.

Unlike previous editions of D&D, you don't suffer a chance for arcane spell casting failure if you're wearing armor. As long as you are proficient in it, you can cast your spells without issue, even if you're a wizard that's wearing full platemail.
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BigAlzBub Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:39pm 
We don't know what spells will be available. We only know that most content will be from the Player's Handbook. Summoning spells are few and far between in that, potentially druids get Conjure Animal (3rd), Conjure Woodland Being (4th), Conjure Minor Elemental (4th), Conjure Elemental (5th). Wizards can also do the Elementals.
You could animate dead (3rd) as a Wizard, Cleric or Oathbreaker Paladin, but that isn't to everyone's taste and Skeletons/zombies are a bit on the weak side at the levels you can cast them at.

Other summon spells tend to be from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, and we don't know if that will be included or not.

Druid Fits the light armour, but there weapon selection is a bit limited, Club, dagger, mace, staff (yes they can be used one handed if you use a shield), Scimitar, sickle or spear.
if you make it an Elf or Githyanki then you can use a one handed sword, or if you go Dwarf then you could use hammers or axes.
If you go Wizard then you get no armour, unless you go Dwarf or Githyanki. However as a mage you would likely use Mage Armour, which is as good as almost any light armour until you get the seriously enchanted stuff (studded leather +1, is the same as Mage Armour, so you need at least +2 to beat it, I wouldn't expect to see that until the end of Act 2/the beginning of Act 3)
There is a rumour that Humans will get Light armour and pole-arms, but this is not currently confirmed.
GrandMajora Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
We don't know what spells will be available. We only know that most content will be from the Player's Handbook.

They said everything from player's handbook, and it's been confirmed that at least 600 new spells are coming at full release.

So we can deduce that at least all spells from levels 1-6 will be included, as 12th level is when you start getting access to 6th level magic.
Recjawjind Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
We don't know what spells will be available. We only know that most content will be from the Player's Handbook.

They said everything from player's handbook, and it's been confirmed that at least 600 new spells are coming at full release.

So we can deduce that at least all spells from levels 1-6 will be included, as 12th level is when you start getting access to 6th level magic.
600 spells and actions is what they said, and the list of spells that are in guaranteed is pretty limited
I doubt everything from PHB makes it tbh.
jchaosmaster Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Probably the best option for this specific build is a melee beastmaster ranger. You get to summon a companion, and be an effective dex based melee combatant, in light armor.

Grab a rapier and a shield and you'll do just fine.

Oh this sound good. Very few games have a dedicated pet build class. Unless gender locked.. as female. So that might be worth checking out. Yea I saw a video about pally/warlock which already got me interested. I'm a massive fan of FF Red mage look and style. Do the beast guy get to capture other beasts or it just this is your starting familer.... I also guess me getting to enslave a succubus and dress her up like a British noble is out.
Foolswalkin Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Originally posted by GrandMajora:

They said everything from player's handbook, and it's been confirmed that at least 600 new spells are coming at full release.

So we can deduce that at least all spells from levels 1-6 will be included, as 12th level is when you start getting access to 6th level magic.
600 spells and actions is what they said, and the list of spells that are in guaranteed is pretty limited
I doubt everything from PHB makes it tbh.

Yeah, but I’m guessing it’s more likely that spells that don’t work in CRPGs will be what is cut. Freeform illusions being the example of an archetype that doesn’t really have a meaningful CRPG analog, or open-ended Divinations (augury etc). I’d be surprised if all summons were cut.

Nonetheless, I endorse Larian’s tuned-up Beastmaster as the most likely summoner analog.
dolby Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
i had 25+ characters in bg 3 EA and that wasn't even full game so yeah beastmaster, clearic, druid are just some of the classes
Foolswalkin Jul 22, 2023 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by jchaosmaster:
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Probably the best option for this specific build is a melee beastmaster ranger. You get to summon a companion, and be an effective dex based melee combatant, in light armor.

Grab a rapier and a shield and you'll do just fine.

Oh this sound good. Very few games have a dedicated pet build class. Unless gender locked.. as female. So that might be worth checking out. Yea I saw a video about pally/warlock which already got me interested. I'm a massive fan of FF Red mage look and style. Do the beast guy get to capture other beasts or it just this is your starting familer.... I also guess me getting to enslave a succubus and dress her up like a British noble is out.

It’s a set of animal summons, you unlock more/better as you level up. At least in EA, you could not summon a new one in combat but you could summon as often as you wanted outside of combat, whether to “heal” by replacing or because you wanted to replace your Giant Spider with a Boar.
[Heretic]Rivga Jul 22, 2023 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by dolby:
i had 25+ characters in bg 3 EA and that wasn't even full game so yeah beastmaster, clearic, druid are just some of the classes

It is said that they do not scale well at later levels, in table top anyhow, but Larian has changed a few things so perhaps in BG3 they'll be fine.
Certainly for the Beastmaster an additional Body is amazingly useful.
jchaosmaster Jul 22, 2023 @ 5:53pm 
Thats a slight shame. As a fan of shin Megami games I loved the idea of battling besides my netherworld horrors.
Foolswalkin Jul 22, 2023 @ 6:07pm 
Originally posted by jchaosmaster:
Thats a slight shame. As a fan of shin Megami games I loved the idea of battling besides my netherworld horrors.
Warlock Pact of the Chain?
jchaosmaster Jul 23, 2023 @ 8:05am 
What. Lol beasts me. In a game called shin Megami imagen a mmo you could fight besides your demon. So like you could be the melee and it either your healer or range damage. That why I like summoning in skyrim. Battling side by side with your atricnock. Any game that let's me live that fantasy is a food game.
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Date Posted: Jul 22, 2023 @ 2:24pm
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