Ranger really as weak as they say?

[Xequilibrium]

Is the ranger really as weak as people say? I was planning to main one but now im in doubt.

Also can rangers dual wield swords?

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xequilibrium:

Is the ranger really as weak as people say? I was planning to main one but now im in doubt.

Also can rangers dual wield swords?

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Wood Elf
Gloom Stalker 5/Assassin 3+
8, 17, 14, 8, 16, 8

Very simple MC for starters.
Advantage on all attacks that you make on round one if you win initiative, which gloom stalker helps with. With Elven accuracy this is one of the best MC possibles IN THE GAME. Lots of synergy. Scout would also work well with an archer intent on kiting, which would mesh well with the elf movement speed.
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[WeenerTuck813]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Edstiles:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Vixzian:

They aren't clueless they are speaking to the PHB Ranger which is widely known to be subpar. Tasha's is a different story.

and yet we are talking about the video game. Who cares about other instances.

The OP literally asked 🤦‍♂️


OP:
In early D&D 5e, ranger sucked. All of them.
Then in later expansions they came out with Gloomstalker and revised the ranger class and it was Great.

Because we’re getting Gloomstalker and Larian is revising the way BM pet works, expect it to be great

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από dolby:

ow and on subject ranger is good in bg 3... the only thing stoping it from geting the number 1 spot is the stupid idea that somone had to put concentration on hunters mark...

Yep pointing out the real issues.

[Recjawjind]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TrueWarlord真の武:

People ARE clueless, apart from BM Ranger is a perfect good class. You guys don't know how to build. obviously. Ranger has the best archer nova combo of the entire D&D 5e game. YOU GUYS ARE CLUELESS.

Ranger does INFINITE DAMAGE AEUGHA AWOOOOOOGA DAMAGE?!?!

(if you have a large cluster of tiny creatures that occupy a cube of 15x15x15ft and an infinite supply of arrows)

(disregard that any higher level AOE spell still does significantly more damage to clusters)

(disregard that this situation will never arise in any campaign ever and is merely a thought experiment)

RANGER BROKEN!?!?!?!

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TrueWarlord真の武:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Vixzian:

They aren't clueless they are speaking to the PHB Ranger which is widely known to be subpar. Tasha's is a different story.

People ARE clueless, apart from BM Ranger is a perfect good class. You guys don't know how to build. obviously. Ranger has the best archer nova combo of the entire D&D 5e game. YOU GUYS ARE CLUELESS.

Someone has the Ranger body pillow.

[Edstyles]

Also beastmaster weak? what? xD dont listen to forums go try yourself op .

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WeenerTuck813:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Edstiles:

and yet we are talking about the video game. Who cares about other instances.

The OP literally asked 🤦‍♂️


OP:
In early D&D 5e, ranger sucked. All of them.
Then in later expansions they came out with Gloomstalker and revised the ranger class and it was Great.

Because we’re getting Gloomstalker and Larian is revising the way BM pet works, expect it to be great

Wrong and missinformation. Ranger "revised" was an UA that was never official. Ranger BM was the only sub that was "really not great", everything else is very good since ever. Larian fixing BM Ranger is a very good idea, so it will be amazing on BG3.

[Panic Fire]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TrueWarlord真の武:

Ranger in D&D 5e is awesome. Take care with BG3 forum advices because people here are totally clueless (you're better make research online in D&D 5e forums and looking for possible changes for BG3 after).

The only Ranger that was actually not good was the PHB Beast Master, but it was fixed in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything book years ago (its AMAZING now).

Rangers and Monks are considered the weakest classes in 5e.

Rangers and Monks have to many situational "CORE" class skills that just plain don't do much.

In the case of Rangers they max out on there class dmg at about level 5. After that they really just pick up extra utility and situational abilities.

In 5e rangers are at best a semi decent splash class, and you are almost always better off playing another class on a mechanical level (roleplay aside)

In BG3 however Rangers are probably one of the stronger classes. Sorcs might be the strongest class simply for being able to fire off 3 fireballs a round.

[Recjawjind]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

Rangers and Monks are considered the weakest classes in 5e.

Rangers and Monks have to many situational "CORE" class skills that just plain don't do much.

In the case of Rangers they max out on there class dmg at about level 5. After that they really just pick up extra utility and situational abilities.

In 5e rangers are at best a semi decent splash class, and you are almost always better off playing another class on a mechanical level (roleplay aside)

In BG3 however Rangers are probably one of the stronger classes. Sorcs might be the strongest class simply for being able to fire off 3 fireballs a round.

3 Fireballs? How about 4?
Regular action, extra action from haste, bonus action quickened, second bonus action from the armor piece that gives one when you deal fire damage with a non-cantrip spell

Can't wait to triple disintegrate someone either :>

[Panic Fire]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Recjawjind:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

Rangers and Monks are considered the weakest classes in 5e.

Rangers and Monks have to many situational "CORE" class skills that just plain don't do much.

In the case of Rangers they max out on there class dmg at about level 5. After that they really just pick up extra utility and situational abilities.

In 5e rangers are at best a semi decent splash class, and you are almost always better off playing another class on a mechanical level (roleplay aside)

In BG3 however Rangers are probably one of the stronger classes. Sorcs might be the strongest class simply for being able to fire off 3 fireballs a round.

3 Fireballs? How about 4?
Regular action, extra action from haste, bonus action quickened, second bonus action from the armor piece that gives one when you deal fire damage with a non-cantrip spell

Can't wait to triple disintegrate someone either :>

2 levels fighter to action surge another one may be even better than getting 2 more levels in sorc as well. Sorc is kind of broken with out the 1 spell per turn rule.

[Recjawjind]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

2 levels fighter to action surge another one may be even better than getting 2 more levels in sorc as well. Sorc is kind of broken with out the 1 spell per turn rule.

Action surge *would* be funny for the meme, but it def wouldn't be optimal.

[dolby]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Recjawjind:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

2 levels fighter to action surge another one may be even better than getting 2 more levels in sorc as well. Sorc is kind of broken with out the 1 spell per turn rule.

Action surge *would* be funny for the meme, but it def wouldn't be optimal.

of course it's optimal... lol. Ending a fight before it even starts with surprise round is as optimal as it gets... but yeah i can see how dnd playes can't undestand that hehe cos a DM would stop you before that would happne i guess..

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TrueWarlord真の武:

Ranger in D&D 5e is awesome. Take care with BG3 forum advices because people here are totally clueless (you're better make research online in D&D 5e forums and looking for possible changes for BG3 after).

The only Ranger that was actually not good was the PHB Beast Master, but it was fixed in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything book years ago (its AMAZING now).

Rangers and Monks are considered the weakest classes in 5e.

Rangers and Monks have to many situational "CORE" class skills that just plain don't do much.

In the case of Rangers they max out on there class dmg at about level 5. After that they really just pick up extra utility and situational abilities.

In 5e rangers are at best a semi decent splash class, and you are almost always better off playing another class on a mechanical level (roleplay aside)

In BG3 however Rangers are probably one of the stronger classes. Sorcs might be the strongest class simply for being able to fire off 3 fireballs a round.

Nah, you guys just don't know how to build in D&D 5e. Not only the best nova build of the entire game uses Ranger, I know at least 3 amazing builds with Ranger/Rogue, Ranger/Cleric and Ranger/Fighter.

We can agree on Monks tho.

[Panic Fire]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Recjawjind:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

2 levels fighter to action surge another one may be even better than getting 2 more levels in sorc as well. Sorc is kind of broken with out the 1 spell per turn rule.

Action surge *would* be funny for the meme, but it def wouldn't be optimal.

Would depend. Heavy Armor would give you more armor choices for your character. It would also mean you could dump dex, pick up a shield as well. And take a fighting style such as Defense for another +1 ac. As well as a self heal and action surge. Might be worth it vs 1 level 6th spell slot and 2 extra sorcery points plus ASI.

[dolby]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Panic Fire:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Recjawjind:

Action surge *would* be funny for the meme, but it def wouldn't be optimal.

Would depend. Heavy Armor would give you more armor choices for your character. It would also mean you could dump dex, pick up a shield as well. And take a fighting style such as Defense for another +1 ac. As well as a self heal and action surge. Might be worth it vs 1 level 6th spell slot and 2 extra sorcery points plus ASI.

like i said ending the fight in first two rounds is worth it not to mention the fact that you can equip ALL the broken items in game and we all know the game will be full of those lol.