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Hex: Boon Aug 8, 2023 @ 11:15pm
Pact weapon micro managing
Pact weapon, if you apply it to a weapon you are currently carrying say a magic weapon you like, it will give it the property's only until you long rest. You can just cast it again at no cost unlimited times whenever you like but you do have to do that every single time you long rest.
I have gone into fights with a -2 on my attacks because I forgot that I didn't apply it before saving a quitting.
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Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Eventide:
Originally posted by Probz Batman:
It's a actually game problem. The original pact weapon rules from the source material (DnD) does not require you to rebind on a long rest. Binding is a ritual performed as part of the rest and the weapon is now your pact weapon which can be summoned to and from a pocket dimension. You should only need to do the pact to bind a new weapon with a long rest required between binding.

That's like saying every DM, or group in general, that has had homebrewed rules is doing it entirely wrong and they can't do that. It has to be changed because the "source material" says it's different. What you say could work, but that's not what Larian wanted for the video game adaptation of the 5e DnD.. people keep forgetting this. The game is *based on DnD* it's not 1:1 DnD.

So again this is a personal problem not a game problem.
Its far more likely, they have it programmed as a spell like Armor of Agathys or Mage armor and its not a intentional design choice.
Eventide Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Originally posted by Eventide:

That's like saying every DM, or group in general, that has had homebrewed rules is doing it entirely wrong and they can't do that. It has to be changed because the "source material" says it's different. What you say could work, but that's not what Larian wanted for the video game adaptation of the 5e DnD.. people keep forgetting this. The game is *based on DnD* it's not 1:1 DnD.

So again this is a personal problem not a game problem.
Its far more likely, they have it programmed as a spell like Armor of Agathys or Mage armor and its not a intentional design choice.
The game was in early access for like 3 years with these things in it. What you said is extremely unlikely. You're just trying way too hard to will into existence some sort of reasoning to make what you want actually a good idea.

All this because you ran into some fight forgetting to check if you're even equipped for it. So instead of take responsibility you blame Larian and the game. Saying it's a terrible choice when it's really only you that has a problem with it. Something people haven't had a problem with for years in early access.

I even gave examples of why you wouldn't want it automatically applied and you conveniently acted as if that was never said.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:54am 
Originally posted by Eventide:
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Its far more likely, they have it programmed as a spell like Armor of Agathys or Mage armor and its not a intentional design choice.
The game was in early access for like 3 years with these things in it. What you said is extremely unlikely. You're just trying way too hard to will into existence some sort of reasoning to make what you want actually a good idea.

All this because you ran into some fight forgetting to check if you're even equipped for it. So instead of take responsibility you blame Larian and the game. Saying it's a terrible choice when it's really only you that has a problem with it. Something people haven't had a problem with for years in early access.

I even gave examples of why you wouldn't want it automatically applied and you conveniently acted as if that was never said.
No, Jesus Christ. why does everyone think I blame them. I just want an option for it, that's so harmless, its such a inoffensive change, It wouldn't remove any control it would just add control.

You guys shouldn't worship them like gods, they made fantastic games and I like BG3 this is one thing I found annoying, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I feel like I'm explaining to my Cult that no really I don't plan on telling the police.
Daniel_USA Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:04am 
LOL boy never played a single game of Table Top.

DM: You finish a long rest.
Player: I do my morning routine, cast mage armor and summon my familiar!

Next day
DM: You finish your long rest
Player: Let's go....
DM: Roll initiative
Player: FFFF I have no mage armor!

Table: Laughs!
Player: I hide behind the barbarian and cast mage armor.....
Daniel_USA Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:06am 
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Originally posted by Eventide:
The game was in early access for like 3 years with these things in it. What you said is extremely unlikely. You're just trying way too hard to will into existence some sort of reasoning to make what you want actually a good idea.

All this because you ran into some fight forgetting to check if you're even equipped for it. So instead of take responsibility you blame Larian and the game. Saying it's a terrible choice when it's really only you that has a problem with it. Something people haven't had a problem with for years in early access.

I even gave examples of why you wouldn't want it automatically applied and you conveniently acted as if that was never said.
No, Jesus Christ. why does everyone think I blame them. I just want an option for it, that's so harmless, its such a inoffensive change, It wouldn't remove any control it would just add control.

You guys shouldn't worship them like gods, they made fantastic games and I like BG3 this is one thing I found annoying, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I feel like I'm explaining to my Cult that no really I don't plan on telling the police.

IT'S 5E RULES NOT MADE UP VIDEO GAME RULES... If It was all made up then yes they could be blamed for not having these mechanics but they use 5e rules as much as they can, and in 5e it's up to the player to cast their spells after a long rest...
LordSith Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by Daniel_USA:
LOL boy never played a single game of Table Top.

DM: You finish a long rest.
Player: I do my morning routine, cast mage armor and summon my familiar!

Next day
DM: You finish your long rest
Player: Let's go....
DM: Roll initiative
Player: FFFF I have no mage armor!

Table: Laughs!
Player: I hide behind the barbarian and cast mage armor.....

To each his own; in our group we each have a list of spells it is implied we spent 1' to tell the DM we recast automatically. It makes everyone not waste time hearing for the 1000th time that the same lot of spell is cast. Because in universe, no mage would forgot when wandering in the wild to have on them. It saves a lot of time we rather spent in more RP scenes.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by Daniel_USA:
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
No, Jesus Christ. why does everyone think I blame them. I just want an option for it, that's so harmless, its such a inoffensive change, It wouldn't remove any control it would just add control.

You guys shouldn't worship them like gods, they made fantastic games and I like BG3 this is one thing I found annoying, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I feel like I'm explaining to my Cult that no really I don't plan on telling the police.

IT'S 5E RULES NOT MADE UP VIDEO GAME RULES... If It was all made up then yes they could be blamed for not having these mechanics but they use 5e rules as much as they can, and in 5e it's up to the player to cast their spells after a long rest...
What are you talking about, Its very different from 5e pact of the blade, for good reason, it dost take 1 hour to bind it, you cant teleport a bound weapon into a extra dimensional space, it takes 10 minutes for it to vanish if far away from you instead of 1 and you can change pact weapons whenever you like instead of having to do a 1 hour debinding ritual.

Because they would be bad fits for a video game.
Last edited by Hex: Boon; Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:15am
Targaryen22 Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:16am 
Originally posted by AngelRay:
Originally posted by Daniel_USA:
LOL boy never played a single game of Table Top.

DM: You finish a long rest.
Player: I do my morning routine, cast mage armor and summon my familiar!

Next day
DM: You finish your long rest
Player: Let's go....
DM: Roll initiative
Player: FFFF I have no mage armor!

Table: Laughs!
Player: I hide behind the barbarian and cast mage armor.....

To each his own; in our group we each have a list of spells it is implied we spent 1' to tell the DM we recast automatically. It makes everyone not waste time hearing for the 1000th time that the same lot of spell is cast. Because in universe, no mage would forgot when wandering in the wild to have on them. It saves a lot of time we rather spent in more RP scenes.
You realize no mage irl would forget to wander without it cuz it's THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO REMEMBER TO CAST IT. Same as larian having put that responsibility on the player. Remember to cast your ♥♥♥♥ or you are a mage wandering in the wilds without mage armor.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by Daniel_USA:
LOL boy never played a single game of Table Top.

DM: You finish a long rest.
Player: I do my morning routine, cast mage armor and summon my familiar!

Next day
DM: You finish your long rest
Player: Let's go....
DM: Roll initiative
Player: FFFF I have no mage armor!

Table: Laughs!
Player: I hide behind the barbarian and cast mage armor.....

What are you talking about. We are talking about Pact of the blade not mage armor.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by Targaryen22:
Originally posted by AngelRay:

To each his own; in our group we each have a list of spells it is implied we spent 1' to tell the DM we recast automatically. It makes everyone not waste time hearing for the 1000th time that the same lot of spell is cast. Because in universe, no mage would forgot when wandering in the wild to have on them. It saves a lot of time we rather spent in more RP scenes.
You realize no mage irl would forget to wander without it cuz it's THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO REMEMBER TO CAST IT. Same as larian having put that responsibility on the player. Remember to cast your ♥♥♥♥ or you are a mage wandering in the wilds without mage armor.
HA HA HA, a real life mage.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:21am 
We are getting off track, why would having a toggle for pact of the blade be a bad thing?
Targaryen22 Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Originally posted by Targaryen22:
You realize no mage irl would forget to wander without it cuz it's THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO REMEMBER TO CAST IT. Same as larian having put that responsibility on the player. Remember to cast your ♥♥♥♥ or you are a mage wandering in the wilds without mage armor.
HA HA HA, a real life mage.
HA HA HA you can't understand conversational context.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by Targaryen22:
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
HA HA HA, a real life mage.
HA HA HA you can't understand conversational context.
Sure, IRL mage XD
[Heretic]Rivga Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:24am 
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Pact weapon, if you apply it to a weapon you are currently carrying say a magic weapon you like, it will give it the property's only until you long rest. You can just cast it again at no cost unlimited times whenever you like but you do have to do that every single time you long rest.
I have gone into fights with a -2 on my attacks because I forgot that I didn't apply it before saving a quitting.

Pre buffing, this is the Buldars gate 1 and 2 experience we are all missing.

Be thankful this is 5e otherwise before every fight you'd be casting about 30 spells on yourself.
Hex: Boon Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by HereticRivga:
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Pact weapon, if you apply it to a weapon you are currently carrying say a magic weapon you like, it will give it the property's only until you long rest. You can just cast it again at no cost unlimited times whenever you like but you do have to do that every single time you long rest.
I have gone into fights with a -2 on my attacks because I forgot that I didn't apply it before saving a quitting.

Pre buffing, this is the Buldars gate 1 and 2 experience we are all missing.

Be thankful this is 5e otherwise before every fight you'd be casting about 30 spells on yourself.
Yes, pre-buffing is fun, stacking buffs is fun because its a cost reward balance, there is not cost for bind pact weapon, there is in 5e but not in BG3 its instant and you can do it as many times as you want.
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