Recruiting minthara. Too costly?

[Norbac]

Minor spoilers ahead.

Siding with minthara automatically removes wyll and karlach from your party.
Gale leaves as well unless persuaded.

Halsin is a druid and you can't recruit him after destroying their camp.

Edit: unless you cheese the game, you will lose wyll, karlach and halsin. Gale has to be persuaded to stay.

[Richard]

You can recruiter by just not doing saving the grove or assaulting the grove and just leaving. She still ends up in moonrise

[dulany67]

I would argue that Laezel, Astarion, and SH are the best performing companions of the group.

[RhodosGuard]

引用自 Norbac：

引用自 RhodosGuard：

What? WEIRD how the lawful good characters just leave your party if you lead a goblin army to slaughter a camp of innocent refugees and a circle of druids.

Maybe if you like the lawful good characters, dont play an evil character.

Here comes the 1st dude missing the point.

One playstyle is heavily gimped in a game where you are supposed to choose your own path.
I'm not saying your companions should kneel to your genocide episodes, i'm saying there should be more variety.

YOu can choose your own path, you just have to live with the consequences.

Your Playstyle isn't gimped, you just decided to be evil, and a lot of your companions just aren't evil.
You literally are asking your companions to kneel to your genocidal episode. That is literally what you are asking for.
You still end up with a full party, the only thing you are really missing is a caster, and you could always respec any of those companions to be a caster.

This is a roleplaying game after all, and consequences are part of that.

[Rookie0879]

引用自 ObsidianButterfly：

They did a really bad job with Minthara, honestly, and her possible recruitment should have been changed. It was very obvious she was never intended to be a companion, but they changed that at some point and never went back and fixed her recruitment.

What they should have done is, after you reduce her health to zero, a cut scene plays where she is weak enough that the Guardian is able to break the Absolute's hold on her. She realizes what has been happening and swears revenge on the Absolute and all those connected to it, then asks to join you in pursuit of this. At THAT point you should be given the option of taking her or killing her.

The way it is now is just terrible, honestly.

I agree. As of now, the majority of people will never even know that she could possibly be a companion without a forum or a guide. There is zero reason to team up with goblins, even for an evil character, when goblins are very clear that they are working for the force that is trying to find and kill the player.

[Bloodwest]

Yeah, doesn't seem to worth it. Lae'Zel, Shadowheart and Astarion is quite an all-rounder comp tho.

[Zaris]

Just some thoughts:
- Shadowheart / Lae'zel swing both sides, dark or light side depending on your choices
- Astarion and most likely Minthara both pure evil
- Kalarch / Wyll good
- Gale neutral (power hungry in the first place)
- Halsin, Minsk, Jaheira are late game companions and don't matter too much imho (getting Halsin after 16hrs act 1 or Jaheira after 35hrs act2 is way too late)
- mercs are recruitable

For example if you go down the dark side with Shadowheart she kills Nightsong and by that destroying the harper village of Jaheira automatically and Lae'zels goddess wants her to destroy Orpheus in the artefact and by doing so most likely kill the group too -> game over, don't know didn't tried it yet.

Recruiting Minthara is the same effort as recruiting Wyll:
- crash site - druid grove - battle - enter village get Wyll
- crash site - druid grove - battle - go through blighted village to goblin fortress - get Minthara (not a single fight on the way!)

[Chaos]

Isn't this just choices and consequences working as intended?

[L3wt]

引用自 KingOfFriedChicken：

It sucks that it takes so much more time to get her but her sweet embrace is worth it! IM COMING MINTHARA MY BABY BOO! lol

Yeaa boi!!

[Norbac]

引用自 RhodosGuard：

引用自 Norbac：

Here comes the 1st dude missing the point.

One playstyle is heavily gimped in a game where you are supposed to choose your own path.
I'm not saying your companions should kneel to your genocide episodes, i'm saying there should be more variety.

YOu can choose your own path, you just have to live with the consequences.

Your Playstyle isn't gimped, you just decided to be evil, and a lot of your companions just aren't evil.

You are literally stating the issue.
I lose FIVE companions because the game is heavily biased towards "good" aligment. Hence too costly and poor balanced.
What are you even trying to argue.

[sleeve]

引用自 Richard：

You can recruiter by just not doing saving the grove or assaulting the grove and just leaving. She still ends up in moonrise

Can confirm this point? Is she recruitable at that point?

[WOKEGOD]

i recruited her and wyll still in my camp :D along with halsin. Mid act 2
Karlach murdered due to rng dice so idk bout her.
Gotta be bugged

[Mightylink]

These are exactly the consequences I expected when I risked it all for that dark elf romance. I'm surprised the dog didn't leave me too...

[Revan619]

recruited her because I wanted a paladin. Thank god you can respec every party member because yeah losing five companions and all their related quests is just too much and leaves you severely behind on exp if you had done the lawful stupid route. Been comparing the two playthroughs side by side finishing each act evil then good. The game punishes you for not being a boot licker at every opportunity

引用自 Zaris：

Just some thoughts:
- Shadowheart / Lae'zel swing both sides, dark or light side depending on your choices
- Astarion and most likely Minthara both pure evil
- Kalarch / Wyll good
- Gale neutral (power hungry in the first place)
- Halsin, Minsk, Jaheira are late game companions and don't matter too much imho (getting Halsin after 16hrs act 1 or Jaheira after 35hrs act2 is way too late)
- mercs are recruitable

For example if you go down the dark side with Shadowheart she kills Nightsong and by that destroying the harper village of Jaheira automatically and Lae'zels goddess wants her to destroy Orpheus in the artefact and by doing so most likely kill the group too -> game over, don't know didn't tried it yet.

Recruiting Minthara is the same effort as recruiting Wyll:
- crash site - druid grove - battle - enter village get Wyll
- crash site - druid grove - battle - go through blighted village to goblin fortress - get Minthara (not a single fight on the way!)

also this is entirely misleading you cant get Minthara until act 2 in moonrise tower.

[ObsidianButterfly]

引用自 󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧󠀡 HOT󠀡DOGE：

i recruited her and wyll still in my camp :D along with halsin. Mid act 2
Karlach murdered due to rng dice so idk bout her.
Gotta be bugged

You're going to need to explain how you did this or I'm calling you a liar because freeing Halsin forces the goblin camp (and Minthara) to be hostile. And leaving without returning him to the Grove removes him from the game.

[eijibayushi]

Some of you dont seem to get that "Choose your own path" does NOT mean "Choose your own path free of consequences." It's very telling how many either never played tabletop or just in not very well ran games. If you go evil or recruit an evil person into a mostly good party there will be consequences. smh.