i just kill slavers duergars and somehow break my oath of ancients)_))

[Somulo]

ajahahahahhaahahah

NICE LOGIC

KILL DUERGAR - SLAVERS TO SAVE GNOMES

BROKEN THE OATH

NICE LOGIC))))

THE UNDERSTANDING OF GOOD AND EVIL ON EXTEREMELY PERFECT LEVEL STORY WRITER!

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by Somulo:

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

You fell for one of the classic paladin blunders.

Oath of the Ancients and Oath of Devotion are respectively Neutral Good and Lawful Good.
This means you have to follow certain rules and try the pacific way first.
If you want to enforce divine justice on people doing wrongs, then you should pick Oath of Vengeance. I play Oath of Vengeance (which is Chaotic Good) and trust me I have unscrewed the Duergars heads from their bodies without breaking my oath. Actually I think there is even an [Oath of Vengeance] specific dialogue to tell them you came to kill them all.

TL;DR: Don't play Lawful Good or Neutral Good paladins if you want to do Chaotic actions.

its again dead logic

lawful good paladin standing looking how innocent gnome just got throwed to lava, and do nothing, but afterwords protest for no reason

i dk why so many people or trolling or just being i dk - "not smart" i suppose is more or less good characteristic for you :D

It's because you don't understand what Lawful Good is in DnD.
You are confusing Good and Lawful.
Lawful Good characters are boring to play and for a good reason.
What it means is that you must always try to save EVERY life. A Lawful Good character believes everyone can be redeemed and everyone must be saved and shown the proper path. They are missionaries that want to unify the world under peace through peaceful actions. That is what Lawful Good is in DnD. What YOU want to play, is Chaotic Good and that's Oath of Vengeance.

[Puffin]

Originally posted by Somulo:

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

You fell for one of the classic paladin blunders.

Oath of the Ancients and Oath of Devotion are respectively Neutral Good and Lawful Good.
This means you have to follow certain rules and try the pacific way first.
If you want to enforce divine justice on people doing wrongs, then you should pick Oath of Vengeance. I play Oath of Vengeance (which is Chaotic Good) and trust me I have unscrewed the Duergars heads from their bodies without breaking my oath. Actually I think there is even an [Oath of Vengeance] specific dialogue to tell them you came to kill them all.

TL;DR: Don't play Lawful Good or Neutral Good paladins if you want to do Chaotic actions.

its again dead logic

lawful good paladin standing looking how innocent gnome just got throwed to lava, and do nothing, but afterwords protest for no reason

i dk why so many people or trolling or just being i dk - "not smart" i suppose is more or less good characteristic for you :D

You simply can't understand the categories of roles in such fantasy world, it is not the game's fault, but that you can't accept rules... it is how this works here, accept it or leave. Lawful, neutral and chaotic exist for a reason. It is like if you would start to complain over the rules of a tabletop game, it is not others' fault that you didn't learn the rules of a game.

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by GodMan:

Originally posted by Somulo:

its again dead logic

lawful good paladin standing looking how innocent gnome just got throwed to lava, and do nothing, but afterwords protest for no reason

i dk why so many people or trolling or just being i dk - "not smart" i suppose is more or less good characteristic for you :D

Lawful good is not someone that just trashes people because they are torturing innocents. Lawful good seeks to give them the most reasonable punishment and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

Actually he is play Chaotic Good since those Duergars are indeed Chaotic Evil or Neutral Evil at best.

[Quineloe]

Originally posted by GodMan:

and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

Oh please, given how often lawful good enforcers will attack on sight and / or declare death is the only correct punishment this statement this must ring hollow even to you.

your interpretation of lawful evil is also very much off.

[Somulo]

Originally posted by GodMan:

Originally posted by Somulo:

its again dead logic

lawful good paladin standing looking how innocent gnome just got throwed to lava, and do nothing, but afterwords protest for no reason

i dk why so many people or trolling or just being i dk - "not smart" i suppose is more or less good characteristic for you :D

Lawful good is not someone that just trashes people because they are torturing innocents. Lawful good seeks to give them the most reasonable punishment and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

no its just - you got to go by the script and save drow first then join "rebels"

or you bad guy because they npc and you kill them - its unfair!

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by GodMan:

and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

Oh please, given how often lawful good enforcers will attack on sight and / or declare death is the only correct punishment this statement this must ring hollow even to you.

your interpretation of lawful evil is also very much off.

Lawful Good characters will never do that, if you played a game where they did, then you DM does not understand Lawful Good.

[Somulo]

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

Originally posted by Somulo:

its again dead logic

lawful good paladin standing looking how innocent gnome just got throwed to lava, and do nothing, but afterwords protest for no reason

i dk why so many people or trolling or just being i dk - "not smart" i suppose is more or less good characteristic for you :D

It's because you don't understand what Lawful Good is in DnD.
You are confusing Good and Lawful.
Lawful Good characters are boring to play and for a good reason.
What it means is that you must always try to save EVERY life. A Lawful Good character believes everyone can be redeemed and everyone must be saved and shown the proper path. They are missionaries that want to unify the world under peace through peaceful actions. That is what Lawful Good is in DnD. What YOU want to play, is Chaotic Good and that's Oath of Vengeance.

no man i perfectly understand because compare to you i at least play eye of beholder and azure bonds

and this never happens in obsidian or bioware games

Larian do they thing, but its just seems scripted

thats all what matters

its an obvious answer

[BigJ]

Conclusion, instead of been forced to play lawful peaceful dad, go oath of vengance and genocide every last duergar.

My friend has never lost his oath of vengance for killing rather than reasoning.
Oath of the ancients is almost as bad as Batmans "reasoning".

[Somulo]

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by GodMan:

and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

Oh please, given how often lawful good enforcers will attack on sight and / or declare death is the only correct punishment this statement this must ring hollow even to you.

your interpretation of lawful evil is also very much off.

true my man

[SmashingQuasar]

Originally posted by Somulo:

Originally posted by SmashingQuasar:

It's because you don't understand what Lawful Good is in DnD.
You are confusing Good and Lawful.
Lawful Good characters are boring to play and for a good reason.
What it means is that you must always try to save EVERY life. A Lawful Good character believes everyone can be redeemed and everyone must be saved and shown the proper path. They are missionaries that want to unify the world under peace through peaceful actions. That is what Lawful Good is in DnD. What YOU want to play, is Chaotic Good and that's Oath of Vengeance.

no man i perfectly understand because compare to you i at least play eye of beholder and azure bonds

and this never happens in obsidian or bioware games

Larian do they thing, but its just seems scripted

thats all what matters

its an obvious answer

I mean, everyone, literally every person that plays DnD here has proven you wrong. Just accept that you picked Neutral Good and wanted to play Chaotic Good. I've done this mistake countless times in my DnD games and that's why I will never pick Lawful Good or Neutral X ever again.
Fact is, you don't seem to be playing DnD but instead play homebrew games that are based on DnD.

[Somulo]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Conclusion, instead of been forced to play lawful peaceful dad, go oath of vengance and genocide every last duergar.

My friend has never lost his oath of vengance for killing rather than reasoning.

its seems scripted

i mean just imagine even if you follow logic people above

you just standing watcing this drow just send gnome to the lava

and "precious life" being deleted

innocent gnome girl and being killed - and you cant even start a fight instantly - because writer in this moment really just want for this scene to be this way

and the way it is its just look cringe

[GodMan]

Originally posted by Quineloe:

Originally posted by GodMan:

and violence is always the last resort. You are playing lawful evil by killing the duergar.

Oh please, given how often lawful good enforcers will attack on sight and / or declare death is the only correct punishment this statement this must ring hollow even to you.

your interpretation of lawful evil is also very much off.

oh, this intepretation might not be the best on the market, but thats just the interpretation from the sitiuation OP found himself in. He just killed the dreugar because he deemed them evil and while his alignment might more fit to chaotic good, the lawful evil also fits the narrative

[Somulo]

ah.. and btw about lawful good people and dnd logic

they slavers - they criple and hit gnomes for no reason and shout at them

so you just suppose to help them

i hope you will not argue with me on that

[GodMan]

Originally posted by Somulo:

ah.. and btw about lawful good people and dnd logic

they slavers - they criple and hit gnomes for no reason and shout at them

so you just suppose to help them

i hope you will not argue with me on that

I guess you still don't understand.
Imagine that: What do you expect of a policeman that found you hiding a sex slave in your basement? Kill you on sight, or get you to jail for trial?

[Somulo]

im not talking about logic - if its your companions kill the duergar without any reason - its ok

oath is ok

but if YOU kill slaver duergar - you BAD!

i cant laugh more