Does the game cheat with enemy attacks?

[jimmybackman1]

My main toon has a whopping 23 AC yet she gets hit almost as often as my lower AC companions, I know in 5e 23 unbuffed AC is very high and VERY hard to get hit with, yet in this game it feels more like I have an AC of 18 or 19.

[Uvirith]

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

[Blame]

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

Okay you need to clarify where you got that "every third roll", because that is nowhere specified.

[Uvirith]

Originally posted by Blame:

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

Okay you need to clarify where you got that "every third roll", because that is nowhere specified.

Yeah its not really explained ingame. Karmic Dice make sure that every 3 rolls has a success in it, to avoid failurestreaks. That counts for you and the enemy.

[Blame]

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Originally posted by Blame:

Okay you need to clarify where you got that "every third roll", because that is nowhere specified.

Yeah its not really explained ingame. Karmic Dice make sure that every 3 rolls has a success in it, to avoid failurestreaks. That counts for you and the enemy.

Well I know it's not said in game, so where do you get that information?
It's a big deal if that's fact, so is there a credible source that states that? Or is it from your personal experimenting? Or did someone just come up with that number?

[Flavour Bun]

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Originally posted by Blame:

Okay you need to clarify where you got that "every third roll", because that is nowhere specified.

Yeah its not really explained ingame. Karmic Dice make sure that every 3 rolls has a success in it, to avoid failurestreaks. That counts for you and the enemy.

Your source. Please.

[solaris32]

I don't think the ratio is right for the karmic dice, but he's right you definitely need to turn it off. It prevents lose streaks, and that includes for the enemy. So the enemy who would ordinarily constantly miss your tank, karmic dice means they will hit it more often than normal. And your low ac companions who would get hit constantly, karmic dice means they dodge sometimes. So it ends up evening things out hence why you are seeing your tank get hit about as often as your squishies.

It's a godawful feature and no idea why it exists let alone why it's on by default.

[DeLastOne]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/zwqaem/psa_having_the_karmic_dice_setting_turned_on/


TL;DR: If you have the "karmic dice" setting enabled, enemies will hit (and crit) you significantly more often then they should (they "cheat"). The effect increases with your armor class. With an AC of 23 you will take 4x more damage than you should at this AC - making any tank build effectively useless. (charts in the provided link at the bottom)

[Uvirith]

Originally posted by Flavour Bun:

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Yeah its not really explained ingame. Karmic Dice make sure that every 3 rolls has a success in it, to avoid failurestreaks. That counts for you and the enemy.

Your source. Please.

I think the Last Video from Rykker about General mechanics? Or the one from Fextralife? I cant remember, I have seen many the last couple of days. It sound likely though and kinda correlates with wat I witnessed with Karmic Dice on.
Anyways, it was recommended there to turn it off if you want a true Dice-Experience.

[RawCode]

in this game everyone is master of it's class with maxed attributes, every single warlock is 17 charisma, every single wizard is 17 intelligence.

as result, your 23 unbuffed AC not that much, as you probably noticed in prologue, your 1st level characters have 40% chance to hit level 8 demon

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Flavour Bun:

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Yeah its not really explained ingame. Karmic Dice make sure that every 3 rolls has a success in it, to avoid failurestreaks. That counts for you and the enemy.

Your source. Please.

Through some rather extensive testing I can call that the user and the tooltip are both bs.

Karmic dice appears to "smooth" the rolling when compared with on-off for both combat and average checks (58 combat tests, playing the same turn with the main hand attack) and 39 skill checks is my sample size).

Essentially when Karmic dice was on, the enemy as well as my rolls were mostly from 3-17, with never having more than 3 hits or misses in a row, with skill checks it was more interesting as it seems you can "farm" good karmic dice by having a purposely bad at dexterity character and shooting with them constantly.

With Karmic dice off I had 3 critical hits in a row happen twice, something that didn't happen once with them, as well as 4 misses (1 critical miss), but the enemy seems to miss much more often, likely because their stats (generally) are not the best, and since karmic dice isn't there to help them hit past your ac...

Conclusion, there must be a formula different than the tooltip in the game that smoothes the rolling experience. So if you like to have some pseudo rng, karmic is for you, if you like the xcom experience, turn it off.

[Space Raccoon]

omg these people, sure go read reddit, why read LORIAN UPDATE LOG at all? I can trust some schmuk on the reddit he probably knows everything,

oh, wait hotfix /10 - " From now on, loaded dice will only bend RNG in the rolling character's favour. That means you will not be made to miss to make up for a lucky streak of hits. This change also applies to NPC's and enemies, so the effects on the relative challenge of combat should be minimal. "

TL;dr- i can't read and i need reddit to read for me

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Space Raccoon:

omg these people, sure go read reddit, why read LORIAN UPDATE LOG at all? I can trust some schmuk on the reddit he probably knows everything,

oh, wait hotfix /10 - " From now on, loaded dice will only bend RNG in the rolling character's favour. That means you will not be made to miss to make up for a lucky streak of hits. This change also applies to NPC's and enemies, so the effects on the relative challenge of combat should be minimal. "

TL;dr- i can't read and i need reddit to read for me

'This change also applies to NPC's and enemies" There you go. To stop an enemy's miss streak the dice will be rolled in its favor and hit your tank more often than normal.

[jimmybackman1]

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

Oof did not know there where such a silly feature will have to check. xD
edit: yep it were turned on, damn silly that that one is the default option lol

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Space Raccoon:

omg these people, sure go read reddit, why read LORIAN UPDATE LOG at all? I can trust some schmuk on the reddit he probably knows everything,

oh, wait hotfix /10 - " From now on, loaded dice will only bend RNG in the rolling character's favour. That means you will not be made to miss to make up for a lucky streak of hits. This change also applies to NPC's and enemies, so the effects on the relative challenge of combat should be minimal. "

TL;dr- i can't read and i need reddit to read for me

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

Oof did not know there where such a silly feature will have to check. xD
edit: yep it were turned on, damn silly that that one is the default option lol

Suck it Space Raccoon, you just got proved wrong.

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by jimmybackman1:

Originally posted by Uvirith:

Do you have Karmic Dice turned on? Its on by default. It makes every third Diceroll automatically suceed.

Oof did not know there where such a silly feature will have to check. xD
edit: yep it were turned on, damn silly that that one is the default option lol

Developers saying this option not change the challenge of combat.

I think they are more reliable than a random kid on reddit.