Baldur's Gate 3

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Nonomori 4.8.2023 klo 13.30
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Why do Minthara have a male face?
Transitioned male? After that bartender in Hogwarts Legacy I guess these type of characters gonna appear more huh. Woke society and all.

I mean, guys, seriously. Have a look at this: https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Baldurs-Gate-3-Minthara-Romance1.jpg

You really think what we have now is better than how Minthara used to look before patch? She used to look much better from all senses, now she looks like she wanted to cheat-enter the female Olympic competition whilst being male/transitioned.

You can't possibly think she look better now... can you?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Nonomori; 10.10.2023 klo 12.21
Alkuperäinen julkaisija: Blackdragon:
Nonomori lähetti viestin:
Why do Minthara have a male face?

Remarkably, it's totally true - Minthara DOES have a male face. It is actually one of the drow male faces from the character creator, and I have seen male NPCs in game (including non-drow) with this exact face.

Here's an example of a male PC with this face:
https://i.imgur.com/h679RbX.jpg

I've had concerns about Minthara before - her deep masculine voice was off-putting, and her face, though regular, had this certain ungraceful quality which stopped it from being "beautiful". An uncanny valley effect of some sort. Now it seems her face is actually a male face. Combined with her voice, this makes her so man-like that even Karlach seems more feminine by comparison.

I am not sure if it's a deliberate decision by Larian, but after all this other ♥♥♥♥ they've pulled I wouldn't put it past them to actually try passing off a masculine character as a "female". Challenging gender boundaries or whatever.

Bottom line, this screwed-up agenda is ruining a great game. I remember the BG2/TOB romance with Viconia: she had a very strong personality, but at the same time possessed actual feminine beauty, and her voice actress was one of the greatest voice actresses of all times, Grey DeLisle, famous for playing alluring, seductive, yet strong and passionate characters (like Azula from Avatar). Going from Viconia to Minthara is an incredible step back and disappointment for all us drow-lovers.

Even more, since Shadowheart's romance is for some reason only for good playthroughs (she's a cleric of Shar FFS! why does she only fall for the good guys?), that means those of us playing evil have either the monstrous and creepy Laezel (I still shudder remembering the sex scene with her, she was so ugly naked I felt revulsion) or the man-like Minthara with the deep voice and the male face. Why couldn't they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ give us a pretty girl to romance? Meanwhile the gays and the girls get hunks like Halsin, Astarion and Gale, all conventionally handsome, non-monstrous and full-on male. It's ridiculous.
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Mollerz 4.8.2023 klo 13.52 
LMAo well it is tough with all th emoney and sex you get for being woke.

Not everyone can be a part of the club.

I guess the pillow sleepers will have to settle for mage hand action.
Funny, dude. Now, go look at women from Hollywood who are conventionally considered beautiful and re-evaluate what you are doing with your life.

Cheers.
Go touch some grass m8.
Back to reality, I THINK what happened is what Bethesda did in Skyrim; they made men's faces and then made slight modifications to them and called them women's faces.
Probably not a conspiracy, just a lazy or money saving expedient.
Nonomori lähetti viestin:
Transitioned male? After that bartender in Hogwarts Legacy I guess these type of characters gonna appear more huh. Woke society and all.

Met alor of Drow then?
osskssa17 lähetti viestin:
Nonomori lähetti viestin:
Transitioned male? After that bartender in Hogwarts Legacy I guess these type of characters gonna appear more huh. Woke society and all.

Met alor of Drow then?
Yeah, I have 5k hours in Dota and Drow Ranger is one of my favourite heroes.
Been on Steam for nearly 2 decades, and while there's always been an alt-right presence here, BG3 is certainly the one that will live rent free in their heads for years to come (pun intended).
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Atari 2600; 5.8.2023 klo 4.42
don't talk ♥♥♥♥ about dommy mommy
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osskssa17 lähetti viestin:

Met alor of Drow then?
Yeah, I have 5k hours in Dota and Drow Ranger is one of my favourite heroes.
DOTA drow not the same as DND drow. look at any art depiction, drows have very angular sharp faces.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on DiscoMoose; 5.8.2023 klo 4.55
Tämän ketjun aloittaja on ilmaissut julkaisun vastaavaan alkuperäiseen aiheeseen.
Blackdragon 5.8.2023 klo 16.39 
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Nonomori lähetti viestin:
Why do Minthara have a male face?

Remarkably, it's totally true - Minthara DOES have a male face. It is actually one of the drow male faces from the character creator, and I have seen male NPCs in game (including non-drow) with this exact face.

Here's an example of a male PC with this face:
https://i.imgur.com/h679RbX.jpg

I've had concerns about Minthara before - her deep masculine voice was off-putting, and her face, though regular, had this certain ungraceful quality which stopped it from being "beautiful". An uncanny valley effect of some sort. Now it seems her face is actually a male face. Combined with her voice, this makes her so man-like that even Karlach seems more feminine by comparison.

I am not sure if it's a deliberate decision by Larian, but after all this other ♥♥♥♥ they've pulled I wouldn't put it past them to actually try passing off a masculine character as a "female". Challenging gender boundaries or whatever.

Bottom line, this screwed-up agenda is ruining a great game. I remember the BG2/TOB romance with Viconia: she had a very strong personality, but at the same time possessed actual feminine beauty, and her voice actress was one of the greatest voice actresses of all times, Grey DeLisle, famous for playing alluring, seductive, yet strong and passionate characters (like Azula from Avatar). Going from Viconia to Minthara is an incredible step back and disappointment for all us drow-lovers.

Even more, since Shadowheart's romance is for some reason only for good playthroughs (she's a cleric of Shar FFS! why does she only fall for the good guys?), that means those of us playing evil have either the monstrous and creepy Laezel (I still shudder remembering the sex scene with her, she was so ugly naked I felt revulsion) or the man-like Minthara with the deep voice and the male face. Why couldn't they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ give us a pretty girl to romance? Meanwhile the gays and the girls get hunks like Halsin, Astarion and Gale, all conventionally handsome, non-monstrous and full-on male. It's ridiculous.
lemurs2 lähetti viestin:
Back to reality, I THINK what happened is what Bethesda did in Skyrim; they made men's faces and then made slight modifications to them and called them women's faces.
Probably not a conspiracy, just a lazy or money saving expedient.

Considering just how much effort Larian poured into companions, I do not for one moment believe that they would actually hand-wave using a male face model for a female companion. That, as well as the deep, rough masculine voice, could not have been anything but a conscious decision on Larian's part.

The question may be if it was due to Larian wanting a more "aggressive" evil drow vibe, or indeed some gender-policy messaging. The fist option seems just stupid, they already have an humongous aggressive female Barbarian, making another companion literally male-looking and male-sounding would just be silly. So yeah, to me the second option seems more realistic, unfortunately.
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don't talk ♥♥♥♥ about dommy mommy

Oh yeah, that's another thing. Minthara is male-looking and male-sounding (in gender-culture terms, perhaps "male-presenting" is apt), but that is only half of the picture. The other half is how dominant she is. And sure, she's a drow female, they are supposed to be dominant... unless you can out-dominate them. Which should be possible for the player character, especially those literally specialising in domination and intimidation. But there's no such option, she is just "making you her property". Laezel's the same, but at least with her you can "get on top" if you're Dragonborn (somewhere there's a joke about gith females and dragons). With Minthara, it almost seems as if Larian wanted to emasculate the player characters by making them sexually submit to a male-presenting figure. Even though the romance was supposed to be heterosexual.

So, in the end the only actual feminine female heterosexual romance is with Shadowheart. And she will not romance anyone who disagrees with liberal migration politics (and yes, the "tiefling refugee crisis" is 100% a reference to real world illegal migrants, in the middle-ages there was no such concept and the druids would have been considered fully within rights to protect themselves from the devil-spawn).

All this crap is so tiring, and really undermines an otherwise amazing game.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Blackdragon; 5.8.2023 klo 16.55
I read stuff like this and thank God that the people that think this way tend to not reproduce :steamthumbsup:
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I read stuff like this and thank God that the people that think this way tend to not reproduce :steamthumbsup:
Why do you think they're trying so hard to brainwash everyone's kids?
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Transitioned male? After that bartender in Hogwarts Legacy I guess these type of characters gonna appear more huh. Woke society and all.
These idiots again.

Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpO9D0rVRM
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