Dexterity useless for fighter?

[solaris32]

I no longer need advice and generally give pure fighters 14 dex for the better initiative, but people keep necroing this thread.

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

I would argue dexterity builds are superior to strength builds, (don’t tell the Souls forum I said that), in virtually every scenario. You can use dex weapons, you have wider choices for armor, you have higher initiative, you can be equally great at melee and ranged, etc.

Dex does so much more for you, imho.

Dex in souls is not the same as Dex in DND.

[CorwynCorey]

Originally posted by Beast of War:

I dumped surplus points ( after STR and CON ) in DEX for Lea'zel and above all that pays off when using a crossbow, as she visually does way more damage then STR characters using a bow or crossbow without that. Using a crossbow on tactician does pay off because enemies have to spend time getting closer to you ( preferably walking into chokepoints ) instead of the other way around.

Now i saw the remark you should use STR to throw weapons, and i would were it not it messes up my carefully sorted UI when ( temporarily ) becoming disarmed. I hate that !!

There are two weapons in the game (one a glaive, decent, and the other a trident, amazing) that have the Returning property... they come back into the main hand after being thrown.

My Lae'zel uses those... along with Sentinel. MIGHT give her polearm master at 12 (large range for attacks of opportunity)... maybe not though. Only reason she has a bow is for Hunter's Mark.

[Abisha]

if i recall correct Dex is worthless for fighters reason heavy armor caps the dex
again so awsome idea of 5e

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by Abisha:

if i recall correct Dex is worthless for fighters reason heavy armor caps the dex
again so awsome idea of 5e

That was in since 3E if anything 5E lowered some restriction on dex bonus in comparison. And it's not worthless for a fighter, you are just better off using light armor instead of medium or heavy if you go full dex fighter.

You just love saying incorrect nonsense on these forums it seems.

[Deitrix]

A dex build for a fighter works, but if you're using heavy armor and a str weapon then 10 is all you need.

[Vizual]

Originally posted by Abisha:

if i recall correct Dex is worthless for fighters reason heavy armor caps the dex
again so awsome idea of 5e

Dex is 100% not worthless for fighters or any class really. It's what your initiative bonus is based off of, and going first in combat is arguably better than any other skill/ability in D&D especially with the vast amount of burst players have in BG3.

[Deitrix]

Originally posted by Abisha:

if i recall correct Dex is worthless for fighters reason heavy armor caps the dex
again so awsome idea of 5e

I don't mean to insult but you are kinda wrong... I've played every edition of tabletop D&D since 2nd and I don't recall Dex EVER being useless for fighters. Admittedly my experience with 4th edition was both short-lived and bad so it's possible dex was crap on fighters there and that's where you got the idea from. No shade. Not callin' you a liar or anything.

In 5th edition however, which BG 3 is using the rules for... Dex fighters with finesse weapons are very valid. You just wouldn't want to use heavy armor. A high leveled dex fighter dual-weilding scimitars or short swords can put out a lot of hurt. To REALLY crank that build up you might want to slip in a few levels of rogue but it's perfectly good just as straight fighter. A rapier fighter could work too. Swashbuckler baby!

Even Str fighters might want to use dex + medium armor over heavy armor. Because they want good ranged attacks and/or initiative rolls. Because they don't want a single grease spell to end their whole careers. Or just because they imagine their character being spry AND strong. It's a roleplaying game, after all. There's even a feat that raises the dex maximum from medium armor from 2 to 3. Not HUGE, but hey... it's an option. And unless you're arguing that only the most "OMFG OP CHEESE BUILDS" are valid, I would say it's a fine one.

[Rammy]

imo its also for the turns.
Enemies can easily wreck you if they all jump on you and you cant even defend yourself.

[Ranpo]

Fighters can use medium armor, shields and finesse weapons so not really useless. Who told you they only have to use heavy armor and 2H weapons?

[Voldski]

Think it really depends, high dex does give more initiative, better saving throws against some spells, lower chances of being prone. So if you're using dex based weapons it has its plusses. Strength give better shove resistance with atheletics, allow higher jumping, better throwing ability to carry more.

So wouldn't say one is definitely better than the other really I think depends on what is more important to you.

Originally posted by Ranpo:

Fighters can use medium armor, shields and finesse weapons so not really useless. Who told you they only have to use heavy armor and 2H weapons?

You can also buy a really good dex based glaive in act 3 for 2handed weapons.

[Revener]

"Heavy armor doesn’t let you add your Dexterity modifier to your Armor Class, but it also doesn’t penalize you if your Dexterity modifier is negative."
So you can go below 10 if you do not care about initiative and other stuff.

[Xanshi]

There is a misconception that fighters should be melee combatant.

You can definitely build a ranged fighter. In fact, you can use battlemaster maneuvers on it.

How i wish larian put more stuff in the game. Throw weapon fighting style is missing for fighters.

[Consoomer]

Originally posted by Xanshi:

Throw weapon fighting style is missing for fighters.

That would be Eldritch Knight with Tavern Brawler.

[Moonbane]

Dex is NOT important for armor when you use heavy armor, you get no bonus to ac. But it still matters for initiative and saving throws.

But if you play a paladin, you will likely have 10 dex tops, due to their wide stat spread needed.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Xanshi:

There is a misconception that fighters should be melee combatant.

You can definitely build a ranged fighter. In fact, you can use battlemaster maneuvers on it.

How i wish larian put more stuff in the game. Throw weapon fighting style is missing for fighters.

Nyrulna legendary Trident is a fantastic throw and melee weapon that you can use a shield with too for a fighter since it auto returns to you and does aoe when thrown.