max level 12 ??? that ruins caster classes ........

[saliddry]

i played every D&D and we all most agree that caster classes get realy funn late in game .. spell level 6 7 8 dont even need 9 .....but stopping at charlevel 12 thats spellevel 5 or so is an joke ....

i dont care stopping at level 12 with barb or paladin casue there nearly nothing new .........they get bit higher base attacks and maybe more attacks per round ......

but cleric druid wizard sorc...... they miss all the spells and not only that ... they also lose on spellslots and number of known spells

sorry but that very likely ruins it for me .... ayeah there people that allways play ♥♥♥♥ rouge in whatever game .........

but in d&d i favour druids .. clerics.. (favoured soul) or sorc

i dont think its worth it

[Silberfuchs]

It's a simple quality over quantity approach.

Sure, BG3 could have gone all the way up to 20+ at release, but the overall balance would have suffered quite a lot.

I would rather have a good experience during my 12 levels in BG3, and maybe see a level cap increase down the line with addons/ DLC, then a rushed 13-20 experience that got shoehorned in because to many players complained.

People really underestimate what BS we can already pull in the games engine with the spells we have access to right now. Aka the possibilities to break the game are larger in scope than in older games like Neverwinter Nights.

[The Power]

After level 15 in D&D things get cheesed to much by 19 you walk around like a demi god

[Conker]

seems like you dont play 5e or didnt play any pre made adventure modules
most 5e campaigns end around lvl 10-12 ish

so yeah bg 3 is basically a HUGE standard campaign

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Alistair:

After level 15 in D&D things get cheesed to much by 19 you walk around like a demi god

Yeah, so you can probably imagine how the vast majority of adventurers never even come close to that level range before they hang up their swords and retire to a more quiet life.

Mortals ascending to godhood is not a common occurrence by any means. In fact, it probably happens only a few times in any given era.

[Pozhinateli]

Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal - lvl cap around 30
Baldur's Gate III - lvl cap 12

That is joke.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Pozhinateli:

Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal - lvl cap around 30
Baldur's Gate III - lvl cap 12

That is joke.

Your comparison is what's the actual joke here.

ToB was the 3rd installment in an ongoing saga about the Bhaalspawn, and ended with your character having the chance to ascend to literal godhood.

BG3 is the first game in a brand new story, that has you facing off against a possible mind flayer cult.

Mind flayers are only CR 6-7 creatures. You do not need to be maximum level to deal with them.

[Pozhinateli]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Pozhinateli:

Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal - lvl cap around 30
Baldur's Gate III - lvl cap 12

That is joke.

Your comparison is what's the actual joke here.

ToB was the 3rd installment in an ongoing saga about the Bhaalspawn, and ended with your character having the chance to ascend to literal godhood.

BG3 is the first game in a brand new story, that has you facing off against a possible mind flayer cult.

Mind flayers are only CR 6-7 creatures. You do not need to be maximum level to deal with them.

Then this game should not be named the BG 3

[fenixverloren]

For the love of... It's ROGUE Stop calling them red, Rouge is a color for crying out loud. 12 makes a lot of sense because a lot of dnd tabletop games end around level 12.

[Zenjinn]

Originally posted by Mitth'raw'nuruodo:

Some really weird excuses here. "But you will be too powerful" "DEMIGODZZ".... what the hell are you people talking about? Am I missing something here?

It is not like the characters are going to jump to level 20 straight way. It will take dozens of hours that will enjoy not being "overpowered".

Besides if the developers add levels up to 20, they will obviously balance the late game content appropriately.

In my experience what a higher level cap actually adds is more variety of tools at your disposal, thus a more interesting tactical experience. So yeah, I also hope developers are keeping further levels in reserve for expansions.

yeah but like you said they need to balance the game around those option and powerful skill and thats not the case '-' lv12 can already be too powerful once you master ur class and possibilities so imagine lv20 in a world where a lv12 class can clear everything easily

not funny at all '-' thats why for me if they wanna put those high lv/spells they need to put a dlc where you fight 3-4 op bosses and thats it
cause i dont think they will release new act/content for us to push lv20 during gameplay smoothly

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Pozhinateli:

Then this game should not be named the BG 3

I would agree on that. Baldur's Gate is a setting in the Forgotten Realms, not the name of its own series.

Hell, the the city wasn't even present at all in BG2, or its ToB expansion.

[fenixverloren]

Originally posted by M4djinn:

yeah but like you said they need to balance the game around those option and powerful skill and thats not the case '-' lv12 can already be too powerful once you master ur class and possibilities so imagine lv20 in a world where a lv12 class can clear everything easily

not funny at all '-' thats why for me if they wanna put those high lv/spells they need to put a dlc where you fight 3-4 op bosses and thats it
cause i dont think they will release new act/content for us to push lv20 during gameplay smoothly

Of course we'll get an expansion sized dlc, it's WoTC we are talking about and they'll want that sweet cash.

[Nuee]

The fixation on levels in the game being a measure of the quality of the game is astonishing. This is not a continuation of your character from BG1 through BG2 and the DLC for BG2.

This is a new character not unlike the first game where you got to spell level 5.

[everybe2]

Orin the Red vs Lord Enver Gortash vs Ketheric Thorm

What level could they be lore wise?

[Lamiosa]

Guess the tadpole also tells you, that your level is too low and you should use it's power.

[2LambBuna]

Originally posted by Pozhinateli:

Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal - lvl cap around 30
Baldur's Gate III - lvl cap 12

That is joke.

2nd and 3rd edition respectively. this is 5th edition