Kill the tieflings or spare them

[CDI Mario]

Now that its so close to launch, I want to see the communities idea on if the tieflings are worth spareing.
Keep in mind, the Tieflings are annoying and saving them will ensure they will be annoying in another part of the game.

[Aoroi]

I am going to save them. As a race, I think they are interesting, good lore, and the prejudices they face add value to the story.

Personally though, I am tired of seeing them everywhere online. Seems I cannot escape the whole "I wanna play a unique tiefling because I am X/Y/Z, and gonna be blue because it is against the norm." Yeah, yeah, we get it you, watch CR. She is an amazing VA but the fanbase got annoying to me. One reason I don't roll Tiefling characters anymore, the group and DMs expect "Jester"

[FissionChips]

burn the tieflings, burn the grove

[VolcanoSheep]

Originally posted by Aoroi:

I am going to save them. As a race, I think they are interesting, good lore, and the prejudices they face add value to the story.

Personally though, I am tired of seeing them everywhere online. Seems I cannot escape the whole "I wanna play a unique tiefling because I am X/Y/Z, and gonna be blue because it is against the norm." Yeah, yeah, we get it you, watch CR. She is an amazing VA but the fanbase got annoying to me. One reason I don't roll Tiefling characters anymore, the group and DMs expect "Jester"

That's interesting to me as I wasn't aware that tieflings had become popular. I've no background in anything D&D and only just started session 0 of my first ever game a few weeks a go, but I've rolled a blue tiefling twice now. lol

I went with blue because my two characters where a sorcerer and druid and the lore blurb said the blue guys where descended from Mephistopheles and are gifted in magic. was going for the more wise character over jester.

[Aoroi]

Originally posted by VolcanoSheep:

That's interesting to me as I wasn't aware that tieflings had become popular. I've no background in anything D&D and only just started session 0 of my first ever game a few weeks a go, but I've rolled a blue tiefling twice now. lol

I went with blue because my two characters where a sorcerer and druid and the lore blurb said the blue guys where descended from Mephistopheles and are gifted in magic. was going for the more wise character over jester.

It could be because of the content I watch/sites I go to. Her and... Nott(?) pop up in a lot of dnd compilations on YT, tumblr/reddit react and VA reading content, several writing groups on FB seem to bring her up. Even a 3D modeling channel that was recommended to me, their first follow-along for noobs was sculpting Jester. Just oversaturated in my opinion. Kinda like ICP and Juggalos. I like some of their music, but the fanbase can take it a little too far. So when something pops up of her, I guess I notice it more instead of filtering out because I am biased against it now? Who knows.

[Dragon Protector]

I play as one during ea so spare them

[Sister of Silence]

The goblins are funny, the thieflings are needy. Guess who dies?

[R.J.Travis]

Originally posted by VolcanoSheep:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

It wasn't his first reaction. He's chasing him around the grove repeatedly demanding he return the stolen property, and the kid is not only insisting he doesn't have it, but also insulting him as he does so.

And then after he's caught red handed and proven to be a thief and a liar, the guardsmen tries to take the kids side and punch out the man for retrieving his stolen property which was given to him by his mother.

To be honest, I stand with the man who slapped the child. The little ♥♥♥♥ deserved it, and the fact the guards are actually taking their side is not doing the tieflings' reputation any good. The mercenaries and druids are already on edge enough as it is, without the adults enabling their children to become criminals.

in neither playthrough did I see this myself as I immediately intervened and from my stand point the child takes the locket, then man immediately catches the child and threatens violence against the child at which point I tell him to catch himself on.

only issue I have is I can't tell the child to give the locket back, but apparently that's just an EA thing and there will be a way to deal with the kids in full release.

In my last playthrought I passed a passive check and I was able to tell that the child was indeed lying and had the item. I was able to ask the kid to give back the watch to witch the kid starts to cry and say something long the lines of "I only took it because it reminded him of his mother." and once the guy hears that he tells the kid to keep the watch and that his mom would want the kid to keep the watch.

btw this is all drama about a watch his mom stole in the first place. this quest is meant to show the player that tieflings and humans are equally not to be trusted ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thieves!

[fulf]

I haven't played enough in EA but I'm gonna cast them out of the grove to fend for themselves if that's an option. Planning on playing a Lawful Evil type, so it's on them to either get strong or die.

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tieflings must die like orks and drows

[Kyutaru]

Remember, the tiefling kids talk about setting up in Baldur's Gate. If you don't kill them and wait an act or two, you might get rewarded for your mercy.

[Piderman]

Most of the time, i end playing the good guy, so i will probably save them.

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by VolcanoSheep:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

It wasn't his first reaction. He's chasing him around the grove repeatedly demanding he return the stolen property, and the kid is not only insisting he doesn't have it, but also insulting him as he does so.

And then after he's caught red handed and proven to be a thief and a liar, the guardsmen tries to take the kids side and punch out the man for retrieving his stolen property which was given to him by his mother.

To be honest, I stand with the man who slapped the child. The little ♥♥♥♥ deserved it, and the fact the guards are actually taking their side is not doing the tieflings' reputation any good. The mercenaries and druids are already on edge enough as it is, without the adults enabling their children to become criminals.

in neither playthrough did I see this myself as I immediately intervened and from my stand point the child takes the locket, then man immediately catches the child and threatens violence against the child at which point I tell him to catch himself on.

only issue I have is I can't tell the child to give the locket back, but apparently that's just an EA thing and there will be a way to deal with the kids in full release.

on the other hand you are dealing with a race of people that where going about their every day lives and then dragged to hell. when, against all odds they are rescued, they are immediately thrown out of their homes by angry bigoted people because of their ancestry.

they are forced on the road where apparently they've been attacked based off the comments of some in the grove, they where given sanctuary then when theres a change in leadership they are again blamed for something they had nothing to do with and are going to be kicked out into certain death.

so excuse me if they aren't watching over every orphaned child that wants to hide and steal.

So what your saying is this tenuous relationship they have with the druids because of these orphans they refuse to wrangle is now about to break because of said inaction and its not their fault that they wont stop the kids. Its literally the simplest thing, Keep the kids in line and don't let them steal ♥♥♥♥ and you could have stayed at the grove for alot longer. Woe, The consequences of your inaction be upon you. "Oh the human wanted to punch out the kids teeth" Yea, Another option is to cut off its hand. A lasting reminder of why you shouldn't steal is a very good way to deter other people. Thats what punishment is. THATS WHAT MAKING AN EXAMPLE OUT OF SOMEONE IS. If you have alot of people who refuse to stay in line, Showing what will happen to them if they continue to be out of line is what you should do

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by VolcanoSheep:

in neither playthrough did I see this myself as I immediately intervened and from my stand point the child takes the locket, then man immediately catches the child and threatens violence against the child at which point I tell him to catch himself on.

only issue I have is I can't tell the child to give the locket back, but apparently that's just an EA thing and there will be a way to deal with the kids in full release.

on the other hand you are dealing with a race of people that where going about their every day lives and then dragged to hell. when, against all odds they are rescued, they are immediately thrown out of their homes by angry bigoted people because of their ancestry.

they are forced on the road where apparently they've been attacked based off the comments of some in the grove, they where given sanctuary then when theres a change in leadership they are again blamed for something they had nothing to do with and are going to be kicked out into certain death.

so excuse me if they aren't watching over every orphaned child that wants to hide and steal.

Ah, well he doesn't punch the child's teeth out, as you fear. He just gives him a swift slap across the face, and the locket falls out of the kid's pocket. It's the tiefling with the great axe who comes up and slugs the hell out of the man that got his pockets picked.

And your defense of them being pressured by the druids is short sighted. The druids are allowing them to stay until such time as the ritual is completed. Barring you attacking the druids first, or stealing their sacred idol, they make no move to deliberately force you out. Kagha is even willing to give you a chance to help clear the road for them.

So no, the tieflings don't have an excuse to ignore the kids and let them have the run of the place.

The boy who stole the locket isn't even the only one who gets themselves in trouble. There's also the one who stole the sacred idol, and the one who somehow managed to sneak off down to the friggin Harpy nest by themselves with the intention of stealing from them.

These kids have a bad habit of getting themselves into situations where they are in very real danger of getting killed because nobody is looking after them. Compared to what the other two are confronted with, a slap to the face is downright gentle!

[cire87]

first run i will be as a good as possible , but then my second play through with the dark urge i will see where it leads me to

[VolcanoSheep]

Like I've already said, I want a way to deal with the thieving children in full release, but getting back to the original point, you are using some misbehaving children to justify the wholesale slaughter of both the tieflings and druids, inso doing siding with the goblins that have already destroyed a village, that are torturing prisoners and are in the process of cooking a dwarf.

Me thinks someone just wants to be edgy.