developers reported for bestiality in game.

[Samurai Shampooh]

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

[Puffin]

Originally posted by lokiju:

What's weird to me is that:

1) People don't realize beastiality laws are to protect animals from abuse. It's not because anyone cares who people screw. I find this fascinating as I've been all over the world and most countries don't give a crap about animals. MANY countries allow dogs to be tied up on chains 24/7 (I've even seen them stuck on roof tops) without proper care as "living alarm systems". Almost every South and Central American country does it, same with some European, and others. Are they REALLY trying to protect the bear, or is it just another opportunity to be outraged in the culture wars?

2) If someone changes shape into animal form, and retains all humanoid thoughts, then it's basically like wearing a costume. It's no different than sexy schoolgirl or teacher outfits. Underage sex is illegal, but an adult woman can wear an outfit that PRETENDS to be underage, or pretend to be a teacher with an underage student, and that's legal. Fantasy is legal. In that, I fail to see how folks get upset with anything presented in this game.

Okay, but just because something is not illegal, then it is still okay to promote or create story about it? it is the problem with this liberal world, they try to screw up anything they can in the name of freedom and just because they can do.
Why people should not complain about something which disgusts them?

if they would talk about "crap sex" in game, it would be still disgusting. If they would suggest necrophilia, it would be stil digusting and would be very okay to bash the game for that too. And the list is long, what weird or disguting fetishes are there some people enjoy.

I don't see why it is problem to complain about this scene.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by Lunaria:

Originally posted by lokiju:

What's weird to me is that:

1) People don't realize beastiality laws are to protect animals from abuse. It's not because anyone cares who people screw. I find this fascinating as I've been all over the world and most countries don't give a crap about animals. MANY countries allow dogs to be tied up on chains 24/7 (I've even seen them stuck on roof tops) without proper care as "living alarm systems". Almost every South and Central American country does it, same with some European, and others. Are they REALLY trying to protect the bear, or is it just another opportunity to be outraged in the culture wars?

2) If someone changes shape into animal form, and retains all humanoid thoughts, then it's basically like wearing a costume. It's no different than sexy schoolgirl or teacher outfits. Underage sex is illegal, but an adult woman can wear an outfit that PRETENDS to be underage, or pretend to be a teacher with an underage student, and that's legal. Fantasy is legal. In that, I fail to see how folks get upset with anything presented in this game.

Okay, but just because something is not illegal, then it is still okay to promote or create story about it? it is the problem with this liberal world, they try to screw up anything they can in the name of freedom and just because they can do.
Why people should not complain about something which disgusts them?

if they would talk about "crap sex" in game, it would be still disgusting. If they would suggest necrophilia, it would be stil digusting and would be very okay to bash the game for that too. And the list is long, what weird or disguting fetishes are there some people enjoy.

I don't see why it is problem to complain about this scene.

Again nobody is promoting bestiality. The Joke only works, because people clearly recognize that bear sex is absolutely absurd. It does in fact do quite the opposite of promoting bestiality, even if we accepted it as such.
And by the presentation we can clearly see that it is not to be taken serious...I mean just look at the squirrel in that scene...

[Karl Pilkington]

Am I the only one who saw a hugging embrace and nothing else?

[Tiviani]

Originally posted by Karl Pilkington:

Am I the only one who saw a hugging embrace and nothing else?

It was so comforting and warm looking.

[LinkToReality.ttv]

Fiction is fiction.
Trying to apply laws on fiction is stupid.
You'd have to be pretty far down the low end of the intelligence bellcurve to not be able to differentiate fiction from reality.

Writing about something (or making art/animation), no matter how morally reprihensible or disgusting, isn't the same as promoting it. It can be used for shock factor, dark jokes, emotional weight and so on.
You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it illegal.

It's not illegal to fantasize about or simply just imagining any kind of immoral or illegal thing.
If you wanna try to apply laws to fiction and imagination you're threading deeply into thought policing, and there's nothing good down that path.

And with all this said, in this game it's only implied, meaning that it never even reach that point. The only way it got further than the druid (in bear wild shape) walking up on Astarion is if you imagined it, and I guess that's why people are so upset. They didn't know their brain could think up such things :D

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝Link⎠⎞:

Fiction is fiction.
Trying to apply laws on fiction is stupid.
You'd have to be pretty far down the low end of the intelligence bellcurve to not be able to differentiate fiction from reality.

Writing about something (or making art/animation), no matter how morally reprihensible or disgusting, isn't the same as promoting it. It can be used for shock factor, dark jokes, emotional weight and so on.
You don't have to like it, but it doesn't make it illegal.

I'm pretty sure this crowd would ban Ulysses and Lolita and Shakespeare and honestly just art and literature if they could, so I'm not sure you'll convince them.

[SpaceLimey]

Originally posted by Lunaria:

Originally posted by Swans:

This is how a toddler would describe it, if they could write. Because toddlers are unable to comprehend that an object can be something different to what it looks like, or that it's not where they last saw it etc.

Whereas older children can of course understand that just because something looks like something, it is not necessarily that thing. Even cats are quite good at this after a few experiences with it. But seemingly not this poster.

In this case of course, in the game world it's not a non-human animal, we actually see the change, so I think even a toddler would be quite good at comprehending this is not an actual - non-human - animal. And in reality, it's a CGI rendering of a human who has turned into animal form, and therefore is at best equivalent to a painting etc.

Again, just because something is digital or fictional, still controlled by the law, there is no such excuse that you can depict anything in digital format.

Also, even a toddler can comprehend basic logic. Obviously even if we don't see the actual scene, we exactly know what will happen between those. First of all Astarion 3 times said that, he wants it, then the bear is coming to him. Guess what they will do??? Do you think they will play chess or what will happen probably???

Sexy bear vampire chess.

[Karl Pilkington]

Originally posted by Tiviani:

Originally posted by Karl Pilkington:

Am I the only one who saw a hugging embrace and nothing else?

It was so comforting and warm looking.

I know its implied to be much more but you don't actually see anything. It's a fade to black style cutaway.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Samurai Shampooh:

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

the world doesn't revolve around your mostly third world country

[Dagon_Thrall]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Originally posted by Samurai Shampooh:

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

the world doesn't revolve around your mostly third world country

Hey now! We here in the US are a third world country with wi-fi.
At least be accurate!

[ahmannw]

Originally posted by Mr.Soul:

Originally posted by Samurai Shampooh:

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

the world doesn't revolve around your mostly third world country

Just because we ranked behind
Switzerland
Norway
Iceland
Hong Kong
Australia
Denmark
Sweden
Ireland
Germany
Netherlands
Finland
Singapore
Belgium
New Zealand
Canada
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
United Kingdom
Japan
South Korea
doesn't mean we are a third world country. Still first world by definition!

And we beat Israel, Slovenia, and Malta so

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Samurai Shampooh:

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

TIL steam users really really want to be able to have sex with animals. GO OUTSIDE PEOPLE TOO MUCH JUNK FOOD HAS ROT YOUR MIND

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Lunaria:

Writing a story about a pedophile and saying with the story that it is okay? It would be a fictional story too, or making it look funny somehow, but it would be still pedophilia. I guess it would be okay too by your view?

This is literally the book Lolita. The point being the contrast with the reader who knows despite the narrative that it's wrong

[Zero McDol]

In the end, the OP reported the game, nuff said really.

Instead though, we have spent the last 395 comments debating the content in question, and the OP's decision to report it, etc.

I mean, there comes a point where it's time to let it go.

Steam allows users to report games that they believe have something worth reporting. After that Steam investigates the game(s) in question, and then makes a decision.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Samurai Shampooh:

had to do something, wont allow this to be a trend, and a violation of state and federal laws in the united states.

Did you also report Bojack Horseman?