Sub-Classes gone?

[The Ultimate Despair]

I just booted this up again and just realized that some classes don't have sub-classes anymore, is it just due to early access or did they flat out remove entire sub classes?
The wiki still shows those now gone sub classes as well

[larhtas]

Can you tell me what level you are with what class please so i can help you?

[Yojo0o]

Most classes don't get their subclass at level 1, if that's what you're expecting and experiencing.

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

I just booted this up again and just realized that some classes don't have sub-classes anymore, is it just due to early access or did they flat out remove entire sub classes?
The wiki still shows those now gone sub classes as well

Some classes start with a subclass, most others get there subclass at level 3.

[spamfilter32]

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

I just booted this up again and just realized that some classes don't have sub-classes anymore, is it just due to early access or did they flat out remove entire sub classes?
The wiki still shows those now gone sub classes as well

Please list the classes you are refering to. It is impossible for anyone to help you with so little information.

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by spamfilter32:

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

I just booted this up again and just realized that some classes don't have sub-classes anymore, is it just due to early access or did they flat out remove entire sub classes?
The wiki still shows those now gone sub classes as well

Please list the classes you are refering to. It is impossible for anyone to help you with so little information.

It's not impossible to help him. He is either (a) experiencing a new bug that (I am assuming) none of us have encountered or heard of before, or (b) much more likely simply is not aware of 5e rules around what classes get their subclasses at a given level.

[Ronin Gamer]

Bug aside due to Early Access, no sub class has been removed from the game.

[Alealexi]

Warlocks, sorcerer, and priest get their subclass as level 1. Wizard and druid I believe at level 2 or 3 and all other classes at level 3.

[Shinkiro]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Warlocks, sorcerer, and priest get their subclass as level 1. Wizard and druid I believe at level 2 or 3 and all other classes at level 3.

Paladins have to choose their subclass at lv1 also

[The Ultimate Despair]

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

Originally posted by The Ultimate Despair:

I just booted this up again and just realized that some classes don't have sub-classes anymore, is it just due to early access or did they flat out remove entire sub classes?
The wiki still shows those now gone sub classes as well

Some classes start with a subclass, most others get there subclass at level 3.

Ahhhh alright it makes more sense now. I thought for sure that when Druid released, it had sub classes at level 1, maybe I am misremembering.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Originally posted by spamfilter32:

Please list the classes you are refering to. It is impossible for anyone to help you with so little information.

It's not impossible to help him. He is either (a) experiencing a new bug that (I am assuming) none of us have encountered or heard of before, or (b) much more likely simply is not aware of 5e rules around what classes get their subclasses at a given level.

I am fairly knowledgeable about D&D/Pathfinder in general, however I stopped keeping up with new rule sets at around 3.5 ed of D&D as I felt that it was the pinnacle of the ruleset.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Thanks guys, I thought I was having an actual bug since a decent few classes didn't have their sub classes when creating a character. I would have reported that one to Larian if it had been a bug.

[Ronin Gamer]

Originally posted by Shinkiro:

Originally posted by Alealexi:

Warlocks, sorcerer, and priest get their subclass as level 1. Wizard and druid I believe at level 2 or 3 and all other classes at level 3.

Paladins have to choose their subclass at lv1 also

To be fair that is an odd one since table top is level 3 for paladin. My guess is Larian looked at that and thought level 1 and 2 for paladin were rather subpar due to that and simply chose to dungeon master that one and give it early.

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

Originally posted by Shinkiro:

Paladins have to choose their subclass at lv1 also

To be fair that is an odd one since table top is level 3 for paladin. My guess is Larian looked at that and thought level 1 and 2 for paladin were rather subpar due to that and simply chose to dungeon master that one and give it early.

they might as well give all classes subclass at level 1.
most people start players off at 3rd or 4th level in real life table top because subclass is when the fun starts (because thats when you are actually differentiated from other characters)

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:

To be fair that is an odd one since table top is level 3 for paladin. My guess is Larian looked at that and thought level 1 and 2 for paladin were rather subpar due to that and simply chose to dungeon master that one and give it early.

they might as well give all classes subclass at level 1.
most people start players off at 3rd or 4th level in real life table top because subclass is when the fun starts (because thats when you are actually differentiated from other characters)

I think the reason they didn't is because some new players might actually want to take that time to think about their subclass choice, and the events of their csmpaign might impact that choice. Doesn't matter as much for experienced players.

Of course, for some classes, such as Clercs, subclass at level one is necessary because it would hardly make sense otherwise.

[Starwight/ttv]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

they might as well give all classes subclass at level 1.
most people start players off at 3rd or 4th level in real life table top because subclass is when the fun starts (because thats when you are actually differentiated from other characters)

I think the reason they didn't is because some new players might actually want to take that time to think about their subclass choice, and the events of their csmpaign might impact that choice. Doesn't matter as much for experienced players.

Of course, for some classes, such as Clercs, subclass at level one is necessary because it would hardly make sense otherwise.

Nope, not me and my players, and not any game I've ever been a player in. Start at level 1, live through the dangerous times when a rabbit glaring at you could kill you, and see yourself grow.

Some DMs start off at level 3 certainly--not the vast majority.