Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Thyrm Dec 24, 2022 @ 9:36am
Wyll is an idiot.
Title. Wyll has no logical reason not to let Volo shove an ice pick into his brain. Sure, he says "I only have one eye" but all that means is he has an empty eye hole that provides easier access and no risk. I get for story reasons Wyll is making that choice, but all that means is for story reasons Wyll has been written as an idiot.

He has an empty eye hole and benefits from charisma, Volo Provides an eye that increases his charisma and reduces his already nonexistent intelligence, this is an absolute win for him, why must you torment me so Larian studios.
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Lepakko Dec 24, 2022 @ 8:32pm 
I think this is a good lesson. Even if you can do something. Dont mean you should. I saw right a way that that Letting Volo stab my eye with a pointy thing was a bad idea.
Haven Dec 24, 2022 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Lepakko:
I think this is a good lesson. Even if you can do something. Dont mean you should. I saw right a way that that Letting Volo stab my eye with a pointy thing was a bad idea.
the moment he pulled out that "needle" I was like NOPE, NOPE, NOPE.
Brady4444 Dec 25, 2022 @ 12:34pm 
There needs to be a pretty compelling story reason for me to let Volo anywhere near my party members' eyes. I don't care how good his voice actor is, I won't let it happen.

On the other hand, I don't mind letting Ethel do it. For some reason.

Double standards. Does this make me Chaotic Neutral?
Thyrm Dec 25, 2022 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Brady4444:
There needs to be a pretty compelling story reason for me to let Volo anywhere near my party members' eyes. I don't care how good his voice actor is, I won't let it happen.

On the other hand, I don't mind letting Ethel do it. For some reason.

Double standards. Does this make me Chaotic Neutral?

So the mind flayer parasite that you think will 100% kill you is only enough of a story reason for Ethel? But not Volo. Weird but okay. Also while were on the subject. I also want Ethel to rip out my eye. so Volo can rip that one out and then give me his glass eye.

Which I will then not use and make yet another thread complaining that I can't equip Wyll's eye even though I found it and have another empty eye hole ready to go.
Last edited by Thyrm; Dec 25, 2022 @ 1:13pm
Brady4444 Dec 25, 2022 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Thyrm:
Originally posted by Brady4444:
There needs to be a pretty compelling story reason for me to let Volo anywhere near my party members' eyes. I don't care how good his voice actor is, I won't let it happen.

On the other hand, I don't mind letting Ethel do it. For some reason.

Double standards. Does this make me Chaotic Neutral?

So the mind flayer parasite that you think will 100% kill you is only enough of a story reason for Ethel? But not Volo. Weird but okay. Also while were on the subject. I also want Ethel to rip out my eye. so Volo can rip that one out and then give me his glass eye.

Which I will then not use and make yet another thread complaining that I can't equip Wyll's eye even though I found it and have another empty eye hole ready to go.
I guess this means, we have a plot 'hole'. Pun intended. :steamhappy:
Trap Queen 85 Dec 25, 2022 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by WosM:
Originally posted by Thyrm:
Wyll is an idiot intellectual.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/3495383439604944356/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/3487500856976202752/

I wouldn't go that far after all he admits that his ancestors named him after someone else who spelled their name with a Y because they didn't know how to spell. Trust story. But he definitely isn't a dumb dumb.
GrandMajora Dec 25, 2022 @ 6:38pm 
The problem with lobotomies, and it is quite infuriating that LICENSED DOCTORS never figured this out, is that you can't see what you're operating on.

Volo is going to just stab you in the eye socket, wiggle the ice pick around, and hope he digs the tadpole out!
PsYcHo_OnE Dec 25, 2022 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:
I don't take Volo's deal, or Ethel's, or Omeluum's for that matter.

Nothing can remove the parasite at this stage of the game, and a paltry stat boost is worthless to me, especially as I will be rolling my stats in the final game. The trade off isn't worth it.

What downside is there to Omeluum's offer? You don't sacrifice anything for what he offers.

And have Larian said there will be stat rolling? I thought they stick to point buy.
Last edited by PsYcHo_OnE; Dec 25, 2022 @ 7:12pm
Tuco Dec 25, 2022 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by PsYcHo_OnE:

And have Larian said there will be stat rolling? I thought they stick to point buy.
They did, but it was so far ago (start of EA) that it's not really clear if they plan to stick with original proposition.

They also said at some point that they would revamp the dialogue system to let multiple party members participate on it at the same time and two years later that feature is nowhere to be seen.
War Maiden Dec 25, 2022 @ 8:29pm 
I guess I have not come to the point that I allowed Volo to be alive long enough to do this to my party. So he has some dialogue past the grove? We also found him in the goblin camp... but is that still reality or just him calling out his bard banter?
GrandMajora Dec 25, 2022 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by PsYcHo_OnE:

What downside is there to Omeluum's offer? You don't sacrifice anything for what he offers.

And have Larian said there will be stat rolling? I thought they stick to point buy.

Well, he does ask you to get high on mushrooms, while he conducts an experimental procedure to bypass the magic that is keeping our tadpole in stasis.
kingsims Dec 25, 2022 @ 9:39pm 
Volo Experiment = bad deal. You can kill him and take the eye or just rob him (Which is the best option). Personally i do not like negative intelligence so i don't even loot the eye (Maybe if i get a companion that has uneven charsima and 11 inteillgence then i will use it on them).

Auntie Ethel/Hag = bad deal (Only good if you fight her and intimidate her into giving you Myrna + Her hair, but shes alive and will likely come back to attack you with another hag so shes better off dead without taking the deal).

Omeluum Deal = You get no negative effects directly, but the tadpole becomes "stronger" (No Tadpole new dream as a result of this) and you get a new power for yourself only. He does however give you a ring of psionic protection (So you lose a ring slot in return, but that ring should sheild you from Psionic effects of the parasite and the elder brain if your are around one) kind of like the Auntie Ethel Whispering maks with protection from Evil and Good active (She cannot hurt you or control you and it skips all the fights/hazards)

Using the Tadpole too much lets you become a "true soul" and all the companions agree that using the parasite is bad idea (expect Astarion who is chaotic Evil).

The Absolute Branding does give you some good items, Gloves of power, and the Shield but they are not worth the negative consequences later on in Act 2 when harpers see the brand it could lead to fights.
PsYcHo_OnE Dec 25, 2022 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by kingsims:

Omeluum Deal = You get no negative effects directly, but the tadpole becomes "stronger" (No Tadpole new dream as a result of this) and you get a new power for yourself only. He does however give you a ring of psionic protection (So you lose a ring slot in return, but that ring should sheild you from Psionic effects of the parasite and the elder brain if your are around one) kind of like the Auntie Ethel Whispering maks with protection from Evil and Good active (She cannot hurt you or control you and it skips all the fights/hazards)

"No Tadpole new dream"?
There's some kind of a dream sequence after the experiment when you rest at camp? Nothing happened on any of my playthroughs where I made the deal with him and never used the "Illithid" dialogue options or abilities.
And where did you gather the ring protects against an elder brain?
GrandMajora Dec 25, 2022 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by kingsims:

Using the Tadpole too much lets you become a "true soul" and all the companions agree that using the parasite is bad idea (expect Astarion who is chaotic Evil).

Why would Astarion reject using the tadpole, if he knows it's being actively prevented from going through ceramorphosis?

The tadpole lets him survive in the sunlight, enter people's homes without an invitation, and he is not harmed by running water. Assuming that it may also protect him from being enthralled to his master like a normal spawn is supposed to be, it seems like keeping the tadpole around provides nothing but net positives for him.
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Date Posted: Dec 24, 2022 @ 9:36am
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