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Frost 10. juli 2022 kl. 19:42
Skinny Barbarians
I'm pretty sure this is something that will need to be fixed by mods, but, really, we cannot customize our character to be hulking beef cakes? That's like, that quintessential aspect of a barbarian.
Give us the option to customize our characters properly, pls.
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War Maiden 19. juli 2022 kl. 10:07 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
Lol you really sounds like you're obsessed over me. Just look at you. Most of your comment is nothing but just you trying to shame and insult me.

Obsessed over... you? Really?
I know some guys have a huge ego, but wow.
Your talking to me about 'shaming and insulting' someone yet you have been attempting to do that to me in every post in this thread to me, and you have the gall to accuse me of it? Unbelievable. I know why you said it though, you want a basis, as per usual, to report someone accusing them of 'insulting you aka disrespecting you' and most likely the 'shaming aka disrespecting you' is more of the same. Once again, we all know how you operate.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Why yes, there actually is... surprise?"
Yeah I'm, really surprised that you guys have nothing else in your life than have gossip clubs about random people online.

That was a joke that apparently went right over your head, and i'm not surprised you turned it into an insult to me on on the back end. Sadly typical of you.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"I never said, or framed myself as anything 'leet' that is your perception"
Well when you say you can kill a man and make a death threats... That's pretty much "leet skill".

I never made death threats to anyone here, you really need to stop making things up.
Additionally, if that is your definition of 'leet' you are in need of some additional education. Sure, anyone can kill a man, with a gun and the like, I just do not need to use one. That does not make me 'leet', it makes me able to hold my own against any gender.



Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
" I would have been reported and perma-banned most likely, so no, wasn't me." You did make a death threat and didn't even get banned for it.
Yea, sorry, I once again, I would have been perma banned if I did that, to which I have not. Yet another made up thing you made of me.



Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"There are plenty of vids on youtube that should his strength, I already told you this" Absolute 0 in controlled enviroment beside that one sparring video where he doesn't show any magical powers.

Controlled environment? What you think he should have been a lab rat? Most things nowadays are not in a controlled environment. There is plenty of evidence of his strength even with eye-witness accounting. You apparently are only concerned with controlled environments and not eye-witness or actual fighting. Because tournaments have rules to make sure people do not get seriously hurt, but if you throw away the rules and gauge 'actual' fighting capability, it is a completely different story.

https://www.facebook.com/Wataaaah/videos/bruce-lees-700-pound-punching-bag1-guru-dan-inosanto-is-still-keeping-the-boxing/2798119483782095/

https://youtu.be/_Yf-Cpvvucs

His amazing speed
https://youtu.be/nB1DeEa4xLw

About that fight you called a 'controlled environment', this is what you missed.
https://youtu.be/3HUOuZEXD9M


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Ah your first provoke, I was wondering when you would start this tactic you so love. Oh did they? 1 time was it. The SEALs must of been having an off day. "
No provocation and no wasn't a day off. It was literally competition between countries.

What does that have to do with anything, that part was already established, not that it matters any.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"People whom want to 'look' physically bigger train differently than those whom want leaner, smaller, but tighter muscles."
Everyone will automatically get bigger. Only way you get leaner is just focusing on weight loss, not by training your muscles. The reason why some people go to gym while trying to lose weight is because they don't want to have skinny fat.

Yes, slightly bigger depending on their training regime, as I already told you this. Your 'powerful big bodied' people train specifically to thicken their muscles as much as possible to look that big. I have absolutely no intention of looking like the 'actual comic version' of she-hulk, as that is not the aim of my goals, not to mention I would look terrible like that.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Yes, you will have slight muscle gains with lighter weights, that is just common sense, but the amount of muscle size one desires, is determined by their training regime." Actually more muscle gains with lighter weights as the video I posted shows. You won't gain any gains at all not even in strength unless you work out to the failure. Training is about recruiting your muscle fibers and more deeply you do it the more they multiple. It's actually easier to get most out of your muscles if you do light weights with multiple reps. Though it's boring to keep counting to 100 and over. Personally I do my reps with 8-12 range. Which is considered as golden standard for both strength and muscle growth.

I've been doing just fine for years not going to failure, and have gained quite a bit of strength, to even be able to do what I do now. So no, lifting to failure is not necessary.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Everyone has upper body, and lower body muscles, don't be silly."
Not defined ones. Find me skinny person whose upper body doesn't look like some hollywood movie star's (including bruce lee) and is able to lift 200kg from the bench. You can't. Only people with certain amount of muscles can do it.

Well, most 'normal' bodybuilders cannot lift 440 lbs on a bench press, much less for 8-10 reps. The number you are giving is not a realistic number except for those whom are the best in bodybuilding and have thickened their muscle mass to be able to support not tearing a muscle while attempting such lifts. No, I cannot do 440 lbs, nor would I ever want to, it is a waste to even try, in regard to my goals.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Oh ho, your second provoke, so now you want to be like that huh?"
Provoke? I haven't made any provoke but seems like you're someone who is easily provoken.

'Provoken' is not a word. Additionally, yes, we all know you love to incite emotion into people by provoking them into saying something to you that is against the guidelines of this forum so you can report them, this is nothing new about you.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"let me put it this way, 150lbs 20 times for 3 sets on just one machine, and I typically do the entire circuit which at my gym, is typically 10 machines,"
Again it's not much, how long you have been in a gym? I'm starting to think that the reason why you're still so small and haven't increased your strength either is because you don't work out to the failure. You're not giving your all. You're suppose to push you to your limits. Those are very low weights in most machines. For beginner that would be nice.

Ah. It is quite a lot considering the amount of reps, and sets I do, but once again, demeaning ones capabilities and words is another tactic of yours. LOL. Haven't increased my strength, to what, your standards? Is that what this is about? I don't meet up to your lifting expectations now? How interesting.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
" I lift quite a lot for my small stature, "
You're talking about height but you haven't mentioned your weight. Which is what actually matters in determining how much you should be theoretically be able to lift. Especially when taken into account body fat percentage. Your small height gives you disadvantage on range when fighting but you will build up muscles like everyone else.

My small height does not give me any disadvantage on range, range of motion or anything else in that regard, especially when fighting. I don't need to hit people in the face to take them down to my height.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
" I lift quite a lot for my small stature, and I don't need to look like a typical big bodied bodybuilder to achieve it."
Well the thing is... You're not lifting as big as big bodied bodybuilders do.... They mostly lift 2-4 times heaver things with same reps than you do.

Your right. You know why? Because 'bodybuilding' in the sense of being a pro or competing on stage, is not my focus. I have a real life and a real career and I do not have time to spend hours in the gym, as they do, because that is their job/career. I do what I do to stay combat ready and fit, and to look good. I don't need to go to the gym for anything other reason.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Yes, why would they not promote themselves in such a way?"
Powerlifters compete with strength not with looks.

Yes, they do compete with strength, they also compete with showmanship.
No reputable company is going to offer one sponsorship if they dress and look like a ragamuffin whom does not care about their looks, and hygiene.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Average people do not exercise like people whom are serious about the time they spend being in the gym" But your argument was that strong people are slow and stupid. Which I refuted by pointing out that they do perform in better than average people. Which means that they didn't get slower by working out. In fact the opposite.

I never said they were 'stupid', you really need to stop making things up.
I said they were slow, and in that being 'slow' meant 'combat-wise'. But you just want to once again make things up. Also, I already told you 'average' people do not go to the gym, so they won't have an enhanced cardiovascular system or breathing capability, but I guess you missed that in your fervent desire to be 'right'.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Oh, so now you want to provoke (3rd provoke) me more and say you can run faster than me."
I'm very confident about that fact. I have naturally big leg muscles since childhood and have done 400 Metters running before. Not just that but I was fastest guy in several schools I were in even without putting any training or doing hobbies like football that most people of my age group did.
Funny though how you take it to your emotions to hear me being very confident about myself :D. While simultaneously you have been "bragging" about your own gym stuff.

No, it has nothing to do with emotion, as I told you, i'm not allowing your goading to provoke me, as seems to be your wont. I gave facts, I don't need to brag, unlike you, apparently with your ego needing stroking it seems. My facts were contextual to support what I do in the gym and my points. Not like it matters because as per usual, you only take single quotes out of context to attempt to fit your narrative, as per your usual retort tactics. Once again, anyone whom has been here on this forum a few months and has read how your reply to people knows how you operate.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"sprinters are small 'dudes' as you put it, hell Bolt is not a big guy at all and he is/was the fastest male sprinter."
The ♥♥♥♥? They all look bigger than BG3 guys. Usain bolt for example is bigger than Bruce Lee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwWDYzQIPes

Usain Bolt is a Jamaican sprinter, and 6'5" and weighs slightly over 200 lbs so yea he is gonna be way bigger than Bruce Lee as a typical Chinese male with lean muscle mass and is cut, obviously.


As for the OP, we already know they will have larger and smaller body sizes. Most likely just none that will have a slider involved.
Sidst redigeret af War Maiden; 19. juli 2022 kl. 10:16
GrandMajora 19. juli 2022 kl. 13:42 
I'm conflicted on the idea of wizard body types. On one hand, the School of Transmutation would suggest that it is very possible for Wizards and other arcane spell casters to get big muscles, if they wanted to.

On the other hand, the fact that spells like Bull's Strength and Bear's Endurance are a thing would suggest that they don't need to, since they can just magically enhance their bodies whenever they want.
Sidst redigeret af GrandMajora; 19. juli 2022 kl. 13:42
Pan Darius Cassandra 19. juli 2022 kl. 13:46 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GrandMajora:
I'm conflicted on the idea of wizard body types. On one hand, the School of Transmutation would suggest that it is very possible for Wizards and other arcane spell casters to get big muscles, if they wanted to.

On the other hand, the fact that spells like Bull's Strength and Bear's Endurance are a thing would suggest that they don't need to, since they can just magically enhance their bodies whenever they want.

Ideally, some degree of body type would be reflected by your attributes. You shouldn't be able to make a strong looking character if you have a Str of 8. Choosing a body blueprint, and then having your ability scores modify it would be a cool option to help match what our characters look like to their attributes, but it's never going to happen.
War Maiden 19. juli 2022 kl. 14:50 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
Well you seem to be always too into talking about me and how much you despise me... Especially since now you admitted that you have some sort of gossip club as well... If that doesn't count as obsession then I don't know what does. But at least you're terminally online when you're so into talking trash about random people online who has no effect on your personal life whatsoever. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

So... you didn't even read what I said. Typical of you.
I told you it was a joke, but you couldn't be bothered to read it my retort and just ran with it again. Terminally online? "The term for when a person has gotten so deep into social media that they dedicate themselves to issues that have no relevance in their day to day life" I believe I have already said I don't have any social media? Yes? Quite a few times to a few people now. I play BG3, so the game, and its issues are relevant to me. Oh, and me going to the gym, and this skinny barbarian discussion, is quite relevant to me, so try again.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"I never made death threats to anyone here,"
You have it was few months ago. I still remember in fact the topic was very similar. Where you tried to insist that tiny people are the most deadliest human beings in history of this planet where strong men are just too dumb and slow to fight back.

I didn't make any death threats, come off it now, i've told you this a bunch of times now and it seems you just can't let it go, so it seems you are using this to try to hurt or insult me, that's dangerous ground there Pumis, according to the Steam Guidelines.

Additionally, I do vaguely remember that thread and the people in it was telling you in a real fight those Muy-Tai fighters could kick your ass powerful big body' or not. Nobody said anything about death threats to you. That is just your self envisioned persecution going on there.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Yea, sorry, I once again, I would have been perma banned if I did that, to which I have not. Yet another made up thing you made of me."
Doesn't happen. Make it on right target and steam moderators will just pat you to the head. Seen it happen several times.

Oh, so now the mods are basically biased/committing favoritism and your trying to discredit them too? I see you like walking a dangerous line in this thread. You should be careful, you might get noticed by one whom does not take kindly to being disrespected by basically calling them biased.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Controlled environment? What you think he should have been a lab rat?"
More like actual competition where there are judges and other professionals near.

See, that is your biggest issue right there.
You are so worried about pointing out weight classes and rules and all that. But when it is a 'street fight' or a 'real fight', and there are no rules, it is a very different situation all together, and your 'powerful big bodied' ideal person will be at the mercy of everything available and i'm not talking about guns, knives and the like.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
Let's see videos.
1. First one is just same as someone telling that this bone X is bone of a jesus. No actual evidence that it was being used in regular basis by the person itself. Typical scam.

Bone x is bone of a jesus? What does that even mean?
The video was about him having a 700 lb kicking bag that he used to train with because he kept busting the standard ones that were available. Did you even watch the vid? Apparently not.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
2. Anecdotal discussion without actual evidence of him ever fighting a pro fighter. The fact that he didn't do any tournaments proves that he is scam artists. Just like how Jackie chan avoids MMA. Because it would refute his whole career and make him lose his face as action hero. There was this one chinese man who went and beat down every taichi, and Wing-chu master practiotioner in gyms in China. As result Chinese government didn't like this and made his life living hell since he was basically making China looking bad by destroying their traditional martial arts by using MMA.

So we don't use testimony as evidence now? How curious...
- Even the visualized footage you must have glazed over, mentioned that standard cameras back then were shooting at 24fps and could not cope with the task of recording Bruce's blows, rendering his strikes not visible on camera.

- Even in the first takes of the TV show he was in Green Hornet, he appeared nearly motionless while magically scattering his rivals, which did not suit the producers of the show, and the directors asked him to fight slower. That actually speaks a lot about his speed and accuracy.

That is just a couple of things discussed, there was way more, but i'm not going to annotate all that here.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
3. Just basic myth video which doesn't prove his speed itself. We already seen his sparring video and he didn't have this legendary speed that this video of yours is trying to claim. This is just same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as the "no touch jutsu" where people make other people fly without touching them. Especially the once inc punch.

Well, Karate Master Joe Louis in a televised controlled environment exhibition certainly thought his Karate punch was stronger and more powerful than Mr. Lee, as he was only able to push back the guy holding the cushion a couple feet, while Bruce was able to send him flying from the middle of the square to the end of it. But yea, i'm sure that proof doesn't matter to you either.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
4. I guess you have never seen professional boxer. That speed is nothing that Bruce did and karate is infamous of not actually being a good martial art in practice. Which is why it's not succesful in MMA. Also speed of the punch is not same as strength of the punch. Hitting fast is different of hitting hard enough to actually hurt someone.

That Karate Grandmaster Vic Moore in the 'controlled environment' you love to speak upon, thought he was faster than Bruce Lee. He was shown publically that he wasn't and even gave the body language to reinforce his disbelief.

All he said to Vic Moore was "I'm going to punch towards you. All you have to do is touch my hand as I punch you, you don't have to grab it or intercept it, just touch it." And Vic Moore could not as it was shown in your controlled environment. Also trying to discredit Karate, saying it isn't any good for a martial art is not going to add any evidence to your claims, it only makes it look like you are discrediting it, to save face.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"What does that have to do with anything, that part was already established, not that it matters any."
Expect it does, since it proves that your claim that my country's army has no clue about what makes a good soldier. If elite defeats your elite... Then it's pretty clear which country has better training.

"proves that your claim that my country's army has no clue about what makes a good soldier" And once again, you are putting words in my mouth, as I never said any of that. You really need to stop doing that, it is making you look desperate.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"I've been doing just fine for years not going to failure, and have gained quite a bit of strength, to even be able to do what I do now. So no, lifting to failure is not necessary." Explains why your results are same as amateur guy's. Basically you haven't advanced at all but stayed still. As I said, strength actually builds up with heavier weights while muscles with lighter and more reps.

That is your misguided opinion, but yours nonetheless.
I told you over and over what my personal goals are and you don't care to listen. Instead you wish to push your philosophy on me as if your opinion is the only one that is right and matters as per usual, well, it isn't. Lifting what I do with as many reps and sets as I do with my endurance training has done just fine for me, my goal was never to 'get big'.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"No, I cannot do 440 lbs, nor would I ever want to, it is a waste to even try, in regard to my goals." Well you should if you're going to claim that smaller is stronger than bigger muscle.

That is your opinion, and yours only. While it is your opinion, I do not subscribe to it.
I do not live by your askew standards. I spoke of my physical and strength goals, they are mine alone, hence the words 'my physical and strength goals'.
GrandMajora 19. juli 2022 kl. 14:55 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
Actually I found this pretty interesting. Would those spells make them suddenly buff up like someone who has been using stereoids for an year temporally. Or would it just make some aura or just magical strength out of thin air. There are spells that does increase/decrease size of the target as well.

If I recall right there was very high level spell that basically turned wizards into warriors. Can't remember it's name right now.

I would assume the aura thing. That often seems to be the case when animal channeling spells are depicted in other fictional media. Effectively playing it off as a form of shamanism, where the caster channels the power of the beast, without affecting their physical appearance.
Pan Darius Cassandra 19. juli 2022 kl. 14:58 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GrandMajora:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
Actually I found this pretty interesting. Would those spells make them suddenly buff up like someone who has been using stereoids for an year temporally. Or would it just make some aura or just magical strength out of thin air. There are spells that does increase/decrease size of the target as well.

If I recall right there was very high level spell that basically turned wizards into warriors. Can't remember it's name right now.

I would assume the aura thing. That often seems to be the case when animal channeling spells are depicted in other fictional media. Effectively playing it off as a form of shamanism, where the caster channels the power of the beast, without affecting their physical appearance.

If it's a Transmutation spell, then it actually transforms the Wizard's physical form. That's literally what Transmutation means.

If it's another school, who knows. But Transmuation physically alters things. Think Polymorph, the quintessential Transmutation spell.

You are a student of spells that modify energy and matter. To you, the world is not a fixed thing, but eminently mutable, and you delight in being an agent of change. You wield the raw stuff of creation and learn to alter both physical forms and mental qualities. Your magic gives you the tools to become a smith on reality's forge.

Some transmuters are tinkerers and pranksters, turning people into toads and transforming copper into silver for fun and occasional profit. Others pursue their magical studies with deadly seriousness, seeking the power of the gods to make and destroy worlds.
Sidst redigeret af Pan Darius Cassandra; 19. juli 2022 kl. 15:02
War Maiden 19. juli 2022 kl. 15:17 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
" we all know you love to incite emotion into people by provoking them "
Not true, your own ego just can't stand of someone pointing out that you're wrong so you get angry. If we look at this discussion objectively you're the only one who has gone to personal level.

Oh? It isn't true? Everyone who knows you here can back up my claim.
I have told you before, emotion has not been infused into any of my words, as your attempts to incite, mock, discredit, insult and disrespect me have been noticed as I call you out on each one. Personal level, huh? Funny how you can say that with a straight face, you must be a car salesman.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Ah. It is quite a lot considering the amount of reps, and sets I do, but once again, demeaning ones capabilities and words is another tactic of yours."
Just stating objective facts. You came here bragging as if you're super strong tiny person. But instead you gave us numbers that are pretty normal to beginner weight lifters.
Just pointed out that your bragging wasn't actually impressive, nor was it proving your point of you being superhuman for your size.

Aaand your putting words in my mouth once again. You know this consistent pattern is making you look bad, yes? I never said, nor implied I was 'superhuman' in any way. Your words, not mine. I gave you a baseline of numbers, considering there are only 2 machines in the circuit that go past the 240 lb limit, which is the leg press and the calf press.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"My small height does not give me any disadvantage on range, range of motion or anything else in that regard, especially when fighting. I"
Longer guys generally have longer arms, thus longer reach. While you have smaller reach and it takes more for you to hit their head. You are in disadvantage this is objective fact in martial arts. They can literally hold you by your head with single arm and none of your punches would ever reach them.
This same applies to leg reach as well. They can kick you before you can kick them.
You would need to be very close ranged fighter and in order to be successful in that then you would actually need to to have some mass on mike tyson level.

Goddess, I specifically told you: "My small height does not give me any disadvantage on range, range of motion or anything else in that regard, especially when fighting. I don't need to hit people in the face to take them down to my height." Good for them, they have long arms, and you believe they could kick me before I get in close? You would be sorely mistaken, much like you were about the Muy-Tai fighters in the other thread. Once again, I am not talking about a tournament or sanctioned fight. I am speaking about a 'street fight' or 'battlefield hand to hand combat' meaning a real fight. Once again, you only bothered to quote the part that would fit your narrative instead of the entire quote. Not looking good there for you, Pumis.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
" I have a real life and a real career and I do not have time to spend hours in the gym, as they do,"
They don't need to spend every waking hour at the gym. Science is pretty clear on this.

And yet pro bodybuilders do exactly that, and even those actors gunning for those superhero bodies are trained with hours a day in the gym and specific nutrition diets, as even Cap and the guy whom played Superman in Man of Steel said they could not continue on with such a regime, as a few other MCU actors have as well.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"No, it has nothing to do with emotion"
You are acting far from level headed participants.

So says you, and only you.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
", I don't need to brag"
You have literally been bragging for at least past 3 responses to me. While simultaneously trying to downplay me. The irony is totally lost to you...

I'm kinda wondering where that bragging is. If it is about Bruce Lee then sure, about me, not so much. As for 'downplay' you seem to engage in that quite a bit, from your calling me an amateur, to other demeaning comments we just need to scroll up to review, all while I call you out on them.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Pumis:
"Usain Bolt is a Jamaican sprinter, and 6'5" and weighs slightly over 200 lbs so yea he is gonna be way bigger than Bruce Lee as a typical Chinese male with lean muscle mass and is cut, obviously."
But with your reasoning he should be slow and lose to every small guy.

Because he is. Very tall and lanky with a runners build. You do realize the taller one is the more weight they can have and still look thin? Come on now, you really are pulling at strings, to get credibility now.
Sidst redigeret af War Maiden; 19. juli 2022 kl. 15:21
War Maiden 19. juli 2022 kl. 15:29 
Oprindeligt skrevet af GrandMajora:
I'm conflicted on the idea of wizard body types. On one hand, the School of Transmutation would suggest that it is very possible for Wizards and other arcane spell casters to get big muscles, if they wanted to.

On the other hand, the fact that spells like Bull's Strength and Bear's Endurance are a thing would suggest that they don't need to, since they can just magically enhance their bodies whenever they want.

Yes, that is another way, at least in D&D, to get that strength and endurance, although temporarily. The cleric has the ability to bestow that as well with the spell 'Enhance Ability'.

However, as Wizards are known for their Dex and Int, having big muscles would be unnecessary, but could be a thing for aesthetics.
maximus_orelius 19. juli 2022 kl. 15:47 
Finally this topic is back. Just admit you got it wrong on Barbarian appearance and give the people what they want!
deepgreenbear 19. juli 2022 kl. 20:39 
You know, it takes a MASSIVE amount of dedication to get stacked and this is a fantasy game. It could be fun to, I don't know, play as a characters that would look like you could if you didn't have a job/school and other responsibilities that make it impossible/too costly for you to work out 3 hours a day, every day. So, they have the skinny muscular body type already, add one that looks jacked if time allows. I'd like it!
Engineer 20. juli 2022 kl. 8:48 
We're locking this thread as it has devolved into non-productive argument. Thanks for your understanding.
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