Flanking

[Pontifex Maximus]

I'm wondering if flanking is going to be in the game. So far I don't think I've seen it in play. I got into a fight with some knolls and I had the cleric and the fighter on either side of it and I didn't get advantage. If that is the case it kind a sucks, but I guess I can see how that would be hard to code.

[Nero Cross]

I'm pretty sure the game uses "Facing" rules over flanking, attacks from behind have a higher chance to hit, most likely some form of advantage hidden in the code.

[Aasimar[GER]]

there is no flanking in 5e

[TesticularTortionTony]

So there is no "Flanking" so far as i've seen. There is "backstab" though, which i assume is meant as the same thing. They probably didn't put it in because of enemy swarming, and you only have 4 characters (so far as i've seen), so having your dudes get wrecked cuz they have permanent disadvantage would be terrible. This isn't exactly DnD, it's a hybrid of Larian and DnD styles of game.

[Takichi]

Didnt you get Advantage anyway if someone is Next to the Enemy. The Game even tells and shows you that you got it.

The Problem i think is the game didnt show you Rolls which didnt have a direct effect on it. For example you only see the better Result Roll of Advantage, you didnt see how hard a Roll failt, for example if you got seen while in Stealth it only says you are Revealed and so on.....
That kinda bugs be because i want to see each roll for everything but thats personal Preference.

[TesticularTortionTony]

Originally posted by AasimarGER:

there is no flanking in 5e

I've played 5E with flanking, so i wouldn't say that's true. You could flank, but only if you were lined up with another ally, like if you had a giant enemy, you could stand behind, and one in front, in the same graph row.

[Aasimar[GER]]

5e version of DnD dosnt have any rules for flanking...
forget flanking
Flanking only exist as house rules...
or for the Fighter who takes Flanked defense... which only gives him +2AC while adjacend to a friend

[Planeforger]

Originally posted by AasimarGER:

5e version of DnD dosnt have any rules for flanking...
forget flanking
Flanking only exist as house rules...
or for the Fighter who takes Flanked defense... which only gives him +2AC while adjacend to a friend

It's an optional rule in the DMG, in the section that talks about combat with miniatures.

*edit* Having said that, I've never actually used flanking or seen it being used.

[Aasimar[GER]]

yeah... but its an optional in the DMG.. not for the players to use... unless the DM says so...
also... 5e tuned down the rule disaster 3.5 was
I only say Grappling... you needed a diagram if you whanted to grapple someone
also...
Sneak Attack.. You can always sneak... and you can sneak everything... almost noting is immun vs sneak...

[Planeforger]

Originally posted by AasimarGER:

yeah... but its an optional in the DMG.. not for the players to use... unless the DM says so...
also... 5e tuned down the rule disaster 3.5 was
I only say Grappling... you needed a diagram if you whanted to grapple someone
also...
Sneak Attack.. You can always sneak... and you can sneak everything... almost noting is immun vs sneak...

Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think the game needs flanking. I was just saying that 5e does have official (optional) flanking rules that Larian could use if they wanted to.

As for grappling - after many sessions of completely forgetting how to grapple, it's actually pretty easy. You make an Athletics check vs. the opponent's Athletics or Acrobatics check. If you succeed, the enemy is grappled (their movement is 0, you can still move at half speed, dragging them with you). On their turn, they can use their action to escape - they roll Athletics/Acrobatics vs. your Athletics.

[wendigo211]

Originally posted by Takichi:

The Problem i think is the game didnt show you Rolls which didnt have a direct effect on it. For example you only see the better Result Roll of Advantage, you didnt see how hard a Roll failt, for example if you got seen while in Stealth it only says you are Revealed and so on.....
That kinda bugs be because i want to see each roll for everything but thats personal Preference.

You can see the rolls, but the UI is horrible. If you look at the lower right hand corner of your screen you'll see something that looks like {. If you click on it, it will expand and give you a combat log. If you mouse over the information there it will show you the rolls.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2252071096

[Stray952]

Flanking should be in the game. I don't think I'm going to play it otherwise. That's just dumb. Hitting someone in the back should be easier than hitting someone on the side with arms and weapons. Very dumb/lazy

[Aasimar[GER]]

Originally posted by Stray952:

Flanking should be in the game. I don't think I'm going to play it otherwise. That's just dumb. Hitting someone in the back should be easier than hitting someone on the side with arms and weapons. Very dumb/lazy

DnD dosnt have a directional system... never had... combat rounds are abstract 6 second movemend periods.. where the people/monsters move back and forward and turn around.
3.5 flanking was creating openings to hit or orpotunities to sneak...
well in 5e you can like always sneak...
so i dont get the problem here

[Stray952]

DND doesn’t have a 3 dimensional representation, this (and all) games do. If you can’t understand it have a boxing match with your friend then have another one with two friends while one is behind you. Also the game uses projectiles, projectiles are more effective when not blocked by shields. Flanking is strategic, tactical, physical and psychological advantage. But hey, if you want to play a VIDEO game exactly like a tabletop RPG, then I’d ask why you’re playing a video game at all.

[Solomon Kane]

3.5 was by far superior, 5E is totally streamlined for even dummies to understand, which is a shame, also, 5E took out many really nice Presige Classes. I want my Bastardsword back, and my Favoured Soul/ Red Dragon Disciple.

[Stray952]

There is some sort of flanking. A Gnoll ran passed me today, facing away when he stopped, I got +5 on my next attack and it listed the reason as 'backstab'