Random CTDs on build 41.68

[Twatticus Maximus]

Hey Hey!
Never had this issue before, even with loads of mods throwing errors all over the place (too lazy to filter them out as it didn't seem to be actually breaking anything :P)

Anyway, for some reason or another since updating to .68 I'm getting random CTDs, sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes 30 minutes. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I've tried a fresh install and a fresh save with no mods at all (just to check that mods weren't blowing up the engine or anything) but same results. My mod list has been checked and tidied for compatibility with no errors so I doubt that has any influence.

Been playing since the original Kate and Baldspot days and never had this happen so I'm genuinely a bit lost as to what it is?

Ran zomboid through the .bat so i could check the console after a crash as the logs weren't throwing anything up I could see (No stack traces, don't know much else tbh)

.Bat console dump:
D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid>SET _JAVA_OPTIONS=

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid>SET PZ_CLASSPATH=commons-compress-1.18.jar;istack-commons-runtime.jar;jassimp.jar;javacord-2.0.17-shaded.jar;javax.activation-api.jar;jaxb-api.jar;jaxb-runtime.jar;lwjgl.jar;lwjgl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-glfw.jar;lwjgl-glfw-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-opengl.jar;lwjgl-opengl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl_util.jar;sqlite-jdbc-3.27.2.1.jar;trove-3.0.3.jar;uncommons-maths-1.2.3.jar;./

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid>".\jre64\bin\javaw.exe" -Djava.awt.headless=true -Dzomboid.steam=1 -Dzomboid.znetlog=1 -XX:-CreateCoredumpOnCrash -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow -XX:+UseZGC -Xmx3072m -Djava.library.path=./win64/;./ -cp commons-compress-1.18.jar;istack-commons-runtime.jar;jassimp.jar;javacord-2.0.17-shaded.jar;javax.activation-api.jar;jaxb-api.jar;jaxb-runtime.jar;lwjgl.jar;lwjgl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-glfw.jar;lwjgl-glfw-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-opengl.jar;lwjgl-opengl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl_util.jar;sqlite-jdbc-3.27.2.1.jar;trove-3.0.3.jar;uncommons-maths-1.2.3.jar;./ zombie.gameStates.MainScreenState

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid>IF 1 NEQ 0 (".\jre64\bin\javaw.exe" -Djava.awt.headless=true -Dzomboid.steam=1 -Dzomboid.znetlog=1 -XX:-CreateCoredumpOnCrash -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow -Xmx3072m -Djava.library.path=./win64/;./ -cp commons-compress-1.18.jar;istack-commons-runtime.jar;jassimp.jar;javacord-2.0.17-shaded.jar;javax.activation-api.jar;jaxb-api.jar;jaxb-runtime.jar;lwjgl.jar;lwjgl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-glfw.jar;lwjgl-glfw-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc.jar;lwjgl-jemalloc-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl-opengl.jar;lwjgl-opengl-natives-windows.jar;lwjgl_util.jar;sqlite-jdbc-3.27.2.1.jar;trove-3.0.3.jar;uncommons-maths-1.2.3.jar;./ zombie.gameStates.MainScreenState )

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid>PAUSE
Press any key to continue . . .

**End of .Bat console**

Link to logs (cleaned out recently, don't know if there's an unmodded log in there, can always create one if needed)

https://dir.nu/625dee3e6bc7d

PC Specs:
CPU: i9 9900K (hyperthreading off)
GPU: Geforce RTX 2070 Super (8GB Vram)
SSD: Samsung 1TB
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 32GB (16GB x 2)
OS: Windows 10 64 bit

Sorry for the essay but tried to include everything in one post :)

[Beard]

Can you try going to C:\Users\YourUserName\Zomboid and delete everything there except the "Saves" folder? This should wipe your mods and any configs that might cause problems.
After that try loading into a NEW game and see if that crashes.

If it does, can you share the logs again?
Additionally, can you share the latest “hs_err_pid” file found in your main game folder “Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid”?
Again do this only if the game crashes modless and after wiping the configuration files.

[Twatticus Maximus]

Will do, I'll post back with results either way!

[Twatticus Maximus]

Originally posted by Beard:

Can you try going to C:\Users\YourUserName\Zomboid and delete everything there except the "Saves" folder? This should wipe your mods and any configs that might cause problems.
After that try loading into a NEW game and see if that crashes.

If it does, can you share the logs again?
Additionally, can you share the latest “hs_err_pid” file found in your main game folder “Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid”?
Again do this only if the game crashes modless and after wiping the configuration files.

Got another one.
Cleared out users/zomboid (minus saves folder) and run a fresh vanilla game like you said and although it did seem to run longer at about an hour and a half it then CTD'd again.

Files zipped here:
https://dir.nu/625f34f4eacdf

Contains last console + logs
hs_err_pid files included, 1-4 are the last 4 created 1 being the newest & 5. is the first one i got when this started happening in March.
Latest hs_err i have is from yesterday, the crash I just got about 30 minutes ago didn't seem to generate one for some reason?

[Beard]

Thank you for the logs, the issue unfortunately isnt really clear in them though, it may either be a graphics specific issue or an issue related to Java.

For now, could you make sure to update your graphic drivers to the latest version? Since the logs show they are out of date by a few versions, the link to those should be here:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/drivers/results/187349/

[Twatticus Maximus]

I was hoping you wasn't going to say about updating drivers as the drivers I have are the latest ones that work well with VR. Newer ones absolutely kill the fps in VR and make games jittery as ♥♥♥♥ for some reason.
I'll give it a try though just so I can say whether that's the issue or not, if it crashes again hopefully it'll give me an updated hs_err to show for it.

I'll get back to you with how I get on, thank you for your diligence thus far!
P.S: Absolutely stoked for what you're doing with NPCs, sounds badass!

[Beard]

The alternative would be installing the latest OpenJDK Java version and then pointing the game to it, since it might be a specific Java bug, though the error isnt too clear on that unfortunately.

This is a good guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2441122190

Though instead of the OpenJDK9 you choose the latest version.

[Twatticus Maximus]

Hey hey!

Sorry to necro this post but been mad busy the past couple months so didn't get round to testing what you asked.

Updated clean drivers, wiped settings, started a fresh unmodded game and CTD'd again after about an hour or 2

Included logs, bat. dump, console and hs_err_pid (both a modded and unmodded so you can see if there's a difference. None of my mods throw errors in game)

Let me know what you think, I'm itching to get back into prepping for exploring Louiseville!

[Twatticus Maximus]

A link to said files would probably help (div xD):

https://www.file-upload.com/g4n95tjzt2l0

[Beard]

Yeah still nothing specific I can suggest unfortunately. Could you also share the details of the crash from the Windows event viewer and reliability monitor? Sometimes there is extra useful info there if something external is causing the crashes which seems to be the case here.

https://www.howtogeek.com/123646/htg-explains-what-the-windows-event-viewer-is-and-how-you-can-use-it/

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/sk-sk/000178177/how-to-use-windows-reliability-monitor-to-identify-software-issues#:~:text=What%20is%20Windows%20Reliability%20Monitor,the%20system%20performance%20and%20reliability.

[Twatticus Maximus]

This is the only event I could find (the date is from an earlier attempt but it's the closest I have)

Log Name: Application
Source: Windows Error Reporting
Date: 13/06/2022 1:55:38 AM
Event ID: 1001
Task Category: None
Level: Information
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Portis
Description:
Fault bucket 2022970909412640583, type 5
Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: ProjectZomboid64.exe
P2: 0.0.0.0
P3: 10.0.19044.2.0.0
P4:
P5:
P6:
P7:
P8:
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
/?/C:/Users/sinis/AppData/Local/Temp/RDRDCDB.tmp/empty.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD0B.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD2B.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD77.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDDA7.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:


Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 9b0241a2-f64d-45aa-a505-dc937f98e1a2
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 107bc10e21648b7d6c130952ee7d4747
Cab Guid: 0
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Windows Error Reporting" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1001</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>4</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2022-06-13T00:55:38.5860516Z" />
<EventRecordID>66020</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Portis</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>2022970909412640583</Data>
<Data>5</Data>
<Data>RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64</Data>
<Data>Not available</Data>
<Data>0</Data>
<Data>ProjectZomboid64.exe</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>10.0.19044.2.0.0</Data>
<Data>
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<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
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<Data>
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<Data>
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<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
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<Data>
/?/C:/Users/sinis/AppData/Local/Temp/RDRDCDB.tmp/empty.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD0B.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD2B.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDD77.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERDDA7.tmp.txt</Data>
<Data>
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<Data>0</Data>
<Data>9b0241a2-f64d-45aa-a505-dc937f98e1a2</Data>
<Data>268435456</Data>
<Data>107bc10e21648b7d6c130952ee7d4747</Data>
<Data>0</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

[Twatticus Maximus]

Reliability report most recent (again from a previous time but I literally have nothing sooner)

Source
ProjectZomboid64.exe

Summary
Stopped working

Date
‎19/‎04/‎2022 11:02 PM

Status
Report sent

Description
Faulting Application Path: D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\ProjectZomboid64.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BEX64
Application Name: ProjectZomboid64.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 61e3388b
Fault Module Name: nvoglv64.dll
Fault Module Version: 30.0.14.7247
Fault Module Timestamp: 617876c8
Exception Offset: 000000000123f369
Exception Code: c0000409
Exception Data: 0000000000000007
OS Version: 10.0.19044.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: d79a
Additional Information 2: d79ad6b744b8daa83cb7d69ea171c978
Additional Information 3: c307
Additional Information 4: c30780a6b35998ffdb88a1fdf76e66ec

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: f05493404ef1db25c16e260517ddd7b3 (1255983149400053683)

[Twatticus Maximus]

I don't get it, Zomboid has been completely fine (even with mods throwing errors all over the shop) but since the multiplayer main update it's started doing this. Really weird

[Twatticus Maximus]

Nothing big in the background no, just a couple standard run of the mill tools like afterburner etc.
Vanilla tends to run for a bit longer than modded but not by much so it's likely not related

Shouldn't be, I updated it within the last month or 2.
Downloading the latest Nvidia release 516.40 now and giving it another clean install. Don't think it'll do much but I'll get back to you with results!