Tiny question how to make a gold ingot ?

[K33industries]

Tiny question how to make a gold ingot ?
what can i do with gold scrap, i have the advance furnace and other stuff,
pls help

[Buwaro Elexion]

you can't they can only be found, however, you can scap 20 gold or silver jewarly into fragments, then 10 of those same fragments can be smelted intoa gold/silver sheet at the forge(NOT the furnace) at lvl 1 metal working, then at lvl 4 you can make gold/silver cutlery and goblets

[K33industries]

ah ok thank you

[martindirt]

Originally posted by Buwaro Elexion:

you can't they can only be found, however, you can scap 20 gold or silver jewarly into fragments, then 10 of those same fragments can be smelted intoa gold/silver sheet at the forge(NOT the furnace) at lvl 1 metal working, then at lvl 4 you can make gold/silver cutlery and goblets

Swords? Armor? Would look good wearing golden plate mail, and a golden sword. Ofc only occasionally.. anniversaries, Christmas Eve, new year, etc. And after liberating Louisville center.

[Alex]

Originally posted by martindirt:

Originally posted by Buwaro Elexion:

you can't they can only be found, however, you can scap 20 gold or silver jewarly into fragments, then 10 of those same fragments can be smelted intoa gold/silver sheet at the forge(NOT the furnace) at lvl 1 metal working, then at lvl 4 you can make gold/silver cutlery and goblets

Swords? Armor? Would look good wearing golden plate mail, and a golden sword. Ofc only occasionally.. anniversaries, Christmas Eve, new year, etc. And after liberating Louisville center.

Don't forget the throne...
https://imgcdn.stablediffusionweb.com/2024/10/4/37eeae4f-67e1-4464-82e2-17515bde85aa.jpg

Gold armor is unrealistic and I think never was manufactured even for ceremonial purposes even by most wealthy bigshots.
First, it weights 2.4x more than iron. So full suit would weigh like 75kg instead of 30kg. Second, it has like 0.3 tensile strength and 0.6 mohs hardness of that of the unalloyed iron. So as durable as frozen butter and would dent of every accidental poke and deformed by own weight. So we would make it even thicker and even heavier.

[martindirt]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by martindirt:

Swords? Armor? Would look good wearing golden plate mail, and a golden sword. Ofc only occasionally.. anniversaries, Christmas Eve, new year, etc. And after liberating Louisville center.

Don't forget the throne...
https://imgcdn.stablediffusionweb.com/2024/10/4/37eeae4f-67e1-4464-82e2-17515bde85aa.jpg

Gold armor is unrealistic and I think never was manufactured even for ceremonial purposes even by most wealthy bigshots.
First, it weights 2.4x more than iron. So full suit would weigh like 75kg instead of 30kg. Second, it has like 0.3 tensile strength and 0.6 mohs hardness of that of the unalloyed iron. So as durable as frozen butter and would dent of every accidental poke and deformed by own weight. So we would make it even thicker and even heavier.

Yeah, ik gold armor is useless in combat, but especially on rp mp servers, it would have a good use. Only RP use, ofc.

[hardy_conrad]

Not really a Project Zomboid question, but as we have some people who understand armour here I figured I'd take a shot at resolving something that's been bugging me since forever.

All other things being equal, which provides better protection? A material which is twice as dense but half as thick, or a material which is half as dense but twice as thick?

[Alex]

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

All other things being equal, which provides better protection? A material which is twice as dense but half as thick, or a material which is half as dense but twice as thick?

In that idealized scenario, the protection is equivalent since areal density is same.

In practice, it would depend on application because e.g. tensile strength is more important for stopping projectiles than density, which would be more important when stopping short waved gamma radiation. While thickness is important for longer waves like UV radiation.
Also, in case of physical impact I don't think you can find two materials with same stress-strain curve even if one point of tensile strength on that curve is same. So these will react different to impact of same force - e.g. one more brittle material (a36 steel) can be permanently bent while other ductile one with much lesser density (2014-t6 aluminium) stays same, though both have similar ultimate tensile strength.

Overall, for ballistics more thick less dense armor is not bad as it is more likely to dissipate more energy via reversible deformations. While opposite would have less bulk giving slimmer profile and better agility.

Originally posted by martindirt:

Yeah, ik gold armor is useless in combat, but especially on rp mp servers, it would have a good use. Only RP use, ofc.

Unless the ceremonial guards are ripped hulks who enjoy weight challenges, it would be more practical to dip the armor (or armor parts) into molten gold so they don't embarrass themselves and master.

[K33industries]

i only want a golden spoon ^^

[[Censored]]

gold and silver are soft metals - the main thing for these will be in modded mp servers - vanity stuff - rp stuff