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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:51pm
No Loot in Knox Military Apartments in B42
Does anybody know if the spawn tables were changed significantly for the Knox Military Apartments in March Ridge?

I didn't know about March Ridge until this patch, came across it randomly, saw all the zeds, painstakingly cleared all of the buildings surrounding the apartments and most of the inside, just to finally get to looting to find... nothing. Not a single gun or box of ammo across two whole floors so far. I was really surprised

It just feels like standard house loot, and this surprised me, given the "Knox Military Apartments" sign on the front. I looked it up only to realize that many consider the place to be a "treasure trove of firearms and ammunition" (quoting the wiki), and, for some reason, I wasn't seeing any of it.

This is B42 with the "They Knew" mod only on Apocalypse without any changes to loot settings.
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Originally posted by SgtEmissary [Kane's Will]:
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:

I'll give that a go and report back.

Searched the entire first floor of the Knox Military Apartments with loot set to "Abundant" in all categories (to keep the distribution the same).

Toolboxes, purses, handbags, all types of musical instrument cases, LOTS of games, VHS tapes, and "fun" books/postcards/photos, and THREE bellows. The amount of instruments in the place would make you think it's dorm rooms for a college of music.

The closest I got to finding anything related to guns/ammo was a SINGULAR holster. Well, that, and a "Guns and Ammo" catalog. I found like 4 knives and 1 axe as well.

Clearly something's up with the loot tables, seing that bellows are significantly more common in the military apartments than guns are.

Sounds like it lines up with what I've found at police stations and hunting stores, farming rural supply stores. Fallas Lake (used to be known as Ekron by the fans), the farming hunting supply store was a fantastic spot to find weaponry there and I only found ammo boxes and not even a single gun at the nearby police station. So something is off.
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Armagenesis Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:54pm 
Not even gun cases in the bedroom cabinets and dressers? That's where you find the firearms. Back in b41 at least.
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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
I found sewing kits and a large amount of saxophone cases, now that you mention it.
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speaker2 Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
They are apartement,not a armory.
It was always odd that off-duty army personal will let M16 and other rifle in their cupboard.

In a side note, The wiki is not to be trust.It is out-of-dated or just personal opinion of the writter that day.
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Guinglain Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:57pm 
That was one of those locations that spawned as a survivor home some of the time. You would most likely need to find the annotated map first if it still exists. When it did you would get endless supplies of almost everything, but if it didn't spawn as survivor home it would just be a normal apartment building.
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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by speaker2:
They are apartement,not a armory.
It was always odd that off-duty army personal will let M16 and other rifle in their cupboard.

In a side note, The wiki is not to be trust.It is out-of-dated or just personal opinion of the writter that day.

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.
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speaker2 Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:
Originally posted by speaker2:
They are apartement,not a armory.
It was always odd that off-duty army personal will let M16 and other rifle in their cupboard.

In a side note, The wiki is not to be trust.It is out-of-dated or just personal opinion of the writter that day.

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.

Well It's RNG, I found a lot of wlding rod and one say they have not found a lot.

The game is the game.
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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Guinglain:
That was one of those locations that spawned as a survivor home some of the time. You would most likely need to find the annotated map first if it still exists. When it did you would get endless supplies of almost everything, but if it didn't spawn as survivor home it would just be a normal apartment building.

From the few videos I've seen, it should have guns/ammo even when not a survivor home and be completely flush with loot when it is.
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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by speaker2:
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.

Well It's RNG, I found a lot of wlding rod and one say they have not found a lot.

The game is the game.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to complain. If I don't like it, I'll just change the sandbox settings to suit my needs. I just wanted to ask the question and see if anybody else had experienced this.
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speaker2 Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:
Originally posted by Guinglain:
That was one of those locations that spawned as a survivor home some of the time. You would most likely need to find the annotated map first if it still exists. When it did you would get endless supplies of almost everything, but if it didn't spawn as survivor home it would just be a normal apartment building.

From the few videos I've seen, it should have guns/ammo even when not a survivor home and be completely flush with loot when it is.

Video from B41 will be pack,yes BUT you are playing Build 42 witch have a lot of nerf and change.
I can confrim that B41 that place was pack( I found 5+ machete).
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Armagenesis Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:
Originally posted by speaker2:
They are apartement,not a armory.
It was always odd that off-duty army personal will let M16 and other rifle in their cupboard.

In a side note, The wiki is not to be trust.It is out-of-dated or just personal opinion of the writter that day.

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.
Most likely the loot distribution has been changed and causes firearms to spawn less even in March Ridge.

Maybe try playing with abundant loot and see if anything changes.
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SgtEmissary [Kane's Will] Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:
Originally posted by speaker2:
They are apartement,not a armory.
It was always odd that off-duty army personal will let M16 and other rifle in their cupboard.

In a side note, The wiki is not to be trust.It is out-of-dated or just personal opinion of the writter that day.

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.

Depends on where and what the regulations are on a federal and state level. As far as I see it, the military apartments aren't anywhere on a base so they would have no problems storing their own firearms there. If this were on base then there would be a issue. These apartments are like any other residential buildings. They're off-base living quarters.

I've noticed in general, March Ridge aside, the spawn of guns and ammo overall has been far much lower even at police stations in my own play-throughs. Either the loot distribution is highly bugged or this is a serious bad case of poor RNG for us all.
Last edited by SgtEmissary [Kane's Will]; Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:03pm
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speaker2 Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Armagenesis:
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.
Most likely the loot distribution has been changed and causes firearms to spawn less even in March Ridge.

Maybe try playing with abundant loot and see if anything changes.

Gun spawn rate have been nerf quite a lot, but bullet are now more abondant.
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speaker2 Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by SgtEmissary Kane's Will:
Originally posted by Kyrrisayo:

That's a good point. I made the same rationalization when I found no guns or ammo, but I'd expect at least a single pistol case out of two floors at least.

Depends on where and what the regulations are on a federal and state level. As far as I see it, the military apartments aren't anywhere on a base so they would have no problems storing their own firearms there. If this were on base then there would be a issue. These apartments are like any other residential buildings. They're off-base living quarters.

I've noticed in general, March Ridge aside, the spawn of guns and ammo overall has been far much lower even at police stations in my own play-throughs. Either the loot distribution is highly bugged or this is a serious bad case of poor RNG for us all.

March Ridge is not the millitary base, It is a town made to house the OFF-DUTY personel of Fort Knox.
I doubt that millitary will let the gear get taken home by soldier for hunting trip.
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SgtEmissary [Kane's Will] Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by speaker2:
Originally posted by SgtEmissary Kane's Will:

Depends on where and what the regulations are on a federal and state level. As far as I see it, the military apartments aren't anywhere on a base so they would have no problems storing their own firearms there. If this were on base then there would be a issue. These apartments are like any other residential buildings. They're off-base living quarters.

I've noticed in general, March Ridge aside, the spawn of guns and ammo overall has been far much lower even at police stations in my own play-throughs. Either the loot distribution is highly bugged or this is a serious bad case of poor RNG for us all.

March Ridge is not the millitary base, It is a town made to house the OFF-DUTY personel of Fort Knox.
I doubt that millitary will let the gear get taken home by soldier for hunting trip.

Thats what I said. Being that that its off base housing, they can store personal firearms there.
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Kyrrisayo Dec 29, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by SgtEmissary Kane's Will:
Originally posted by speaker2:

March Ridge is not the millitary base, It is a town made to house the OFF-DUTY personel of Fort Knox.
I doubt that millitary will let the gear get taken home by soldier for hunting trip.

Thats what I said. Being that that its off base housing, they can store personal firearms there.

And soldiers are far more-likely to own firearms personally, especially in the United States, it seems.
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