Caffeine Needs a Nerf

[Johnny Boy]

Not necessarily the pills; they're harder to find than soda so it makes more sense from a game balance perspective, and the dosage would naturally be a lot higher than your average soft-drink.

The sodas really need a nerf though. I haven't done any extensive testing on it but it seems like the effect is pretty much the same as the pills, only the effect seems instant and the sodas themselves are very easy to find out in the world.

Was playing earlier and decided to have a pop with my character's dinner - was unable to get to sleep until like 4 am because it seems to have reset his tiredness from "a little sleepy" to damn near 0. I don't think your average Kentuckian is that sensitive to caffeinated soda, I'm certainly not.

[xAlphaStarOmegax]

That's caffeine for ya. I can't even have it in real life because it keeps me up and makes me have panic attacks.

[Johnny Boy]

Originally posted by xAlphaStarOmegax:

That's caffeine for ya. I can't even have it in real life because it keeps me up and makes me have panic attacks.

I understand if you in particular are sensitive to it - but the average person is not. I promise you 90% of people can have a coke at dinner without having to stay up all night. Americans especially are pretty heavy soda drinkers, I've met people that go through half a 2-liter in a day and sleep just fine.

[Animalman]

i am also IRL sensitive but not hit it in game so don't know how OP it actually is.
The caffine pills are strong aswell, When u hit drowsy they buy you a nice bit of time a few hits in a row

[Venomir]

Originally posted by Johnny Boy:

Originally posted by xAlphaStarOmegax:

That's caffeine for ya. I can't even have it in real life because it keeps me up and makes me have panic attacks.

I understand if you in particular are sensitive to it - but the average person is not. I promise you 90% of people can have a coke at dinner without having to stay up all night. Americans especially are pretty heavy soda drinkers, I know a lot of fat people that go through half a 2-liter in a day and sleep just fine.

Made me LOL... Is it just the fat people you know that can drink a liter of soda and sleep just fine but the skinny/medium-build people you know that drink a liter of soda stay up all night?

Or do you just not know any skinny or medium-build people that also drink soda?

I'm not sure why but the way you phrased this is just funny to me... the "fat people" reference just seemed to come from out of nowhere lol.

[Puppers]

yah i think it needs some altering but i love that it helps with mid day fatigue lol someone in discord didnt sleep for 2 days just kept chugging soda

[Johnny Boy]

Originally posted by Venomir:

Originally posted by Johnny Boy:

I understand if you in particular are sensitive to it - but the average person is not. I promise you 90% of people can have a coke at dinner without having to stay up all night. Americans especially are pretty heavy soda drinkers, I know a lot of fat people that go through half a 2-liter in a day and sleep just fine.

Made me LOL... Is it just the fat people you know that can drink a liter of soda and sleep just fine but the skinny/medium-build people you know that drink a liter of soda stay up all night?

Or do you just not know any skinny or medium-build people that also drink soda?

I'm not sure why but the way you phrased this is just funny to me... the "fat people" reference just seemed to come from out of nowhere lol.

I work in EMS and a lot of our job involves going to assist big fat people, in one way or another. Sometimes it's transporting a cardiac arrest and other times it's helping them off the toilet. There's usually several two liters scattered around the kitchen among their other snacks and stuff.

No job will make you hate fat people more

[Johnny Boy]

Originally posted by Puppers:

yah i think it needs some altering but i love that it helps with mid day fatigue lol someone in discord didnt sleep for 2 days just kept chugging soda

Agreed. As I mentioned, I don't rlly mind the caffeine *pills,* the dosage would be a lot higher and it makes sense for that to actually keep you awake for hours on end. Not sodas, though. I usually drink one or two cans of coke a day and the late night can has no effect on my sleep whatsoever. Maybe if you drank five or six of them in a row lol

[Jet]

i wasnt able to sleep all night from 1 can. didnt get tired til 6am the next day (i woke up around 7am the day before)

[Jet]

Originally posted by Johnny Boy:

Originally posted by Puppers:

yah i think it needs some altering but i love that it helps with mid day fatigue lol someone in discord didnt sleep for 2 days just kept chugging soda

Agreed. As I mentioned, I don't rlly mind the caffeine *pills,* the dosage would be a lot higher and it makes sense for that to actually keep you awake for hours on end. Not sodas, though. I usually drink one or two cans of coke a day and the late night can has no effect on my sleep whatsoever. Maybe if you drank five or six of them in a row lol

so caffeine pills dont help with physical fatigue, only tiredness? how many do u take? I popped like 5 while i was being chased

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Jet:

Originally posted by Johnny Boy:

Agreed. As I mentioned, I don't rlly mind the caffeine *pills,* the dosage would be a lot higher and it makes sense for that to actually keep you awake for hours on end. Not sodas, though. I usually drink one or two cans of coke a day and the late night can has no effect on my sleep whatsoever. Maybe if you drank five or six of them in a row lol

so caffeine pills dont help with physical fatigue, only tiredness? how many do u take? I popped like 5 while i was being chased

Most likely it takes time for them to take effect. Like in B41 with painkillers...before i realized how they worked, ages ago, at one time my char ate almost a whole leaf of pills:D
Then after 30 minutes (in game time) i noticed it started to take effect and i was like...damn i wasted so much pills instead of waiting a bit:D

[Silamon]

So THAT's why I couldn't sleep.... I was wondering why I had to go all through the night before I could sleep...

[Estellese]

Yeah it is oddly strong. When my character couldn't sleep I just assumed it was a bug. It never would have occurred to me that it was a can of soda. Because that is so weird.


Hell, at one point in my life I was drinking 2-4 cans of very high caffeine energy drinks every day. I didn't have issues sleeping. I -did- have absolutely horrific nightmares though. Like, horror-movie levels of blood, gore and violence that left me really sick in the morning. (Had drank in excess for about three months)

Then, in researching why TF I was suddenly getting these horrible nightmares, I learned how unhealthy those drinks were, especially for someone who is both sickly underweight and has a heart condition. So I stopped entirely.

A normal can of soda doesn't have enough caffeine to even affect me. I often forget they even have caffeine.