Build 42 is a disappointment

[straybot]

I waited for Build 42 for so long but it is the most disappointing update. if they had just added features rather than the bad moodles, the bad fighting mechanics, the bad UI. if only they kept the base game the same, cause the art was great and the gameplay was so satisfying. I looked forward to new features, not a rework. my favorite game feels lost, hopefully it gets better with updates

[PandaBear]

To be honest all i hear when i hear people complain like this is "Wah i cant mow down zomboids anymore like i used to. Wah i cant find any good weapons now. Wah the police station is too hard to clear now when i just spawned in. Wah I have to actually pay attention to my player more often now. Wah the games too different and i didnt read how different everything was going be. Wah the games to buggy when its literally in the unstable branch. Wah i dont like the moodles now (this is the stupidest complaint ive seen about build 42)
Wah i dont like that they added new mechanics. Wah I dont like how they nerfed my favourite traits" Ive been enjoying the new build 42 so much more. I actually made it to longer than 2 weeks in game surviving. ive never been able to make it more than 3 days in build 41. As unstable as this update is, ive been having fun being able to actually experience and play the game.

[LIMP BISQUICK]

Can't tell you how many times I came back to thread after playing with the new build only to refrain from posting my thoughts.

Wont be hard to 'improve' this update and that's all you'll be hearing is how they're imroving it. Forgive the complainers but many of us not blind. It will take several more years before they alleviate the real issues with mid/late game that were not addressed here. I fear new problems introduced in this update will further delay progress. Many passionate about the game and would like to prevent devs from shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe some tricks up their sleeves with content held back for b42, don't think they specificed what those things were exactly so it's hard to look forward to it.

[Dr. Death]

Originally posted by LIMP BISQUICK:

Can't tell you how many times I came back to thread after playing with the new build only to refrain from posting my thoughts.

Wont be hard to 'improve' this update and that's all you'll be hearing is how they're imroving it. Forgive the complainers but many of us not blind. It will take several more years before they alleviate the real issues with mid/late game that were not addressed here. I fear new problems introduced in this update will further delay progress. Many passionate about the game and would like to prevent devs from shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe some tricks up their sleeves with content held back for b42, don't think they specificed what those things were exactly so it's hard to look forward to it.

But late game is literally what they will be focusing on from now on?

[BigBoobsGoneWild(d0tc0m)]

I'm disappointed too. This game has been in development for over a decade. They didn't do any updates for several years than this is what they have to show us, it's very underwhelming. Basic stuff in the game is now broken or made worse/less fun.

[I'm Alpharius and this is a lie]

I wonder how many years it will be until they fix the bug of the zombies biting when you open a door through the other part of the door as if this is some kind of ghost door

[xenon]

Originally posted by BigBoobsGoneWild(dotcom):

I'm disappointed too. This game has been in development for over a decade. They didn't do any updates for several years than this is what they have to show us, it's very underwhelming. Basic stuff in the game is now broken or made worse/less fun.

There were monthly progress reports with videos included. In what way were you surprised about unstable B42? What expectations did you have? I am really wondering, why some people are so dismayed about it, when the devs were really outspoken about their ongoing work.

[vandalism]

Every thursdoid sold us a dream, a perfect new update filled with exciting new systems.

Now, the reality of the situation has settled and it is bitter. 3 years of hype for a bunch of broken systems.

muscle strain? lmao
new fluid system not working? lmao
bugged out npcs, including chicken apocalypse? lmao
tons of new skills that require the most convoluted and tedious leveling? lmao
a bunch of new fliers to dilute the skill book loot tables, making skill grinds worse? lmao
skills designed for an end-game in a game where the average player lasts like a week to a month? lmao
multiplayer-centric changes with multiplayer disabled, so you can't test and give feedback based on the parameters that caused all of these changes in the first place? lol, lmao even!

Yeah, they were polishing something for 3 years...

[Dr. Death]

Originally posted by vandalism:

Every thursdoid sold us a dream, a perfect new update filled with exciting new systems.

Now, the reality of the situation has settled and it is bitter. 3 years of hype for a bunch of broken systems.

muscle strain? lmao
new fluid system not working? lmao
bugged out npcs, including chicken apocalypse? lmao
tons of new skills that require the most convoluted and tedious leveling? lmao
a bunch of new fliers to dilute the skill book loot tables, making skill grinds worse? lmao
skills designed for an end-game in a game where the average player lasts like a week to a month? lmao
multiplayer-centric changes with multiplayer disabled, so you can't test and give feedback based on the parameters that caused all of these changes in the first place? lol, lmao even!

Yeah, they were polishing something for 3 years...

Damn, maybe you shouldn't play "UNSTABLE" build.

[Ahab]

Mods are on holiday :) Has to be the only reason this hasn't been locked yet.

[LIMP BISQUICK]

They're pretty good about allowing such discussions to take place even if they can be a bit heated and harsh at times. I know many like to claim they often shut down and lock at any site of criticisms but that's not true.

[Myself]

The game is about 75% finished give it another 3-5 years and it will be flawless

[genericdwarf]

Originally posted by Myself:

The game is about 75% finished give it another 3-5 years and it will be flawless

Don't rush the devs! They're too busy typing essays on Reddit! That is IMPERATIVE for PZ development!!!

[genericdwarf]

Originally posted by LIMP BISQUICK:

They're pretty good about allowing such discussions to take place even if they can be a bit heated and harsh at times. I know many like to claim they often shut down and lock at any site of criticisms but that's not true.

Excuse me, are you new here? First time in any PZ community? The only reason there's any negative feedback here is because Steam mods actually have lives and families to spend time on holiday seasons with. Try that in the Discord/Reddit part where the moderators never heard a "I love you son" in their lives LMAO

[THE REAL CAPT3N]

Originally posted by straybot:

I waited for Build 42 for so long but it is the most disappointing update. if they had just added features rather than the bad moodles, the bad fighting mechanics, the bad UI. if only they kept the base game the same, cause the art was great and the gameplay was so satisfying. I looked forward to new features, not a rework. my favorite game feels lost, hopefully it gets better with updates

You put it pretty succinctly. The facelift changes are amazing, the rebalances aren't very fun and changed something that was already very fun. I hope it gets better too, but now my favorite game does feel a little lost, and actually going back to B41 isn't such a great option because a lot of the mods aren't necessarily there anymore.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Dr. Death:

Originally posted by vandalism:

Every thursdoid sold us a dream, a perfect new update filled with exciting new systems.

Now, the reality of the situation has settled and it is bitter. 3 years of hype for a bunch of broken systems.

muscle strain? lmao
new fluid system not working? lmao
bugged out npcs, including chicken apocalypse? lmao
tons of new skills that require the most convoluted and tedious leveling? lmao
a bunch of new fliers to dilute the skill book loot tables, making skill grinds worse? lmao
skills designed for an end-game in a game where the average player lasts like a week to a month? lmao
multiplayer-centric changes with multiplayer disabled, so you can't test and give feedback based on the parameters that caused all of these changes in the first place? lol, lmao even!

Yeah, they were polishing something for 3 years...

Damn, maybe you shouldn't play "UNSTABLE" build.

There are actually a number of other things too.
But it is pointless as most folks will just use the it is an Unstable.
Yes we know.
But valid criticism is still good. Allthough he could have articulated it better. (without the lmao-s and provide a bit of elaboration.)

The thing is, i think they did not plan out many of the changes. (As in mapping out the possible scenarios, events, happenings during the theoretical phase. For which then a solution should be devised, then find the fitting algorythm if need be, and then you get to coding.)
It is not just chicken, but can be rat apocalypse...etc.