would tanks actually be overpowered?

[Umbra Animo]

so whiling going through the common suggestions discussion I saw the whole no overpowered cars thing and it talking about no tanks. that got me thinking would a tank actually be overpowered. This is a survival game after all not a action game. so the fuel consumption of real tanks alone would make a tank impractical. tanks are also very complex so any repairs would either be extremely time consuming and or risky without master engineers due to risk of damaging the parts you would have to remove to even do the repairs, more so you likely would to have use specialized location to even do some of them. not like you can get to the underside of a tank with a jack so you would need to be able to get under the tank in some other way. to me a Tank would be either a impractical but awesome vehicle or something that exists to take apart of rare loot. the armor platting would be difficult if not impossible to replace but very useful if you can use it
Simply speaking a tank would be one of few things. either a bragging right if a FACTION is developed enough to maintain a tank(no way a lone survivor could) and at that point they deserve something overpowered, a Impractical and likely just wasteful weapon for a weaker faction at worst or a lucky emergency weapon at best. or just risky but valuable salvage.

[Silamon]

Assuming you have the logistics to support a tank, yes it would be very, very overpowered.

If you don't have the logistics to support a tank, you don't have a tank.

The fuel and parts for repairs on the tracks and engine would be the biggest problems for a solo survivor. Ammo too, although a tank would be very effective vs zombies even without ammo.

Repairing armor plating should be a nonfactor since zombies are not going to be able to do any meaningful damage to it.

[Umbra Animo]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Assuming you have the logistics to support a tank, yes it would be very, very overpowered.

If you don't have the logistics to support a tank, you don't have a tank.

The fuel and parts for repairs on the tracks and engine would be the biggest problems for a solo survivor. Ammo too, although a tank would be very effective vs zombies even without ammo.

Repairing armor plating should be a nonfactor since zombies are not going to be able to do any meaningful damage to it.

yeah that was a thought I had. if you had the post infection production to run a tank you had to be very well developed, so you earned the right to use that tank.
though for the armor bit I was also thinking about other people with the ability to make and use explosives

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Umbra Animo:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Assuming you have the logistics to support a tank, yes it would be very, very overpowered.

If you don't have the logistics to support a tank, you don't have a tank.

The fuel and parts for repairs on the tracks and engine would be the biggest problems for a solo survivor. Ammo too, although a tank would be very effective vs zombies even without ammo.

Repairing armor plating should be a nonfactor since zombies are not going to be able to do any meaningful damage to it.

yeah that was a thought I had. if you had the post infection production to run a tank you had to be very well developed, so you earned the right to use that tank.
though for the armor bit I was also thinking about other people with the ability to make and use explosives

It just depends on how realistic the tank mod is. Something like an m1 abrams guzzles fuel like no tomorrow. About 300 gallons of fuel in 8 hours of combat, more for travelling. 10 gallons an hour while *idling*.

Even if you have a whole gas station to yourself that's going to go by pretty fast if you are driving a tank around all day.

[hardy_conrad]

Given how zombies can make short work of things like metal walls and bite through metal welding masks, I wouldn't be so sure they couldn't take apart a tank. At the end of the day they are magic after all (excluding the 28 Days Later type not-really zombies).

[KuroSenshi]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Assuming you have the logistics to support a tank, yes it would be very, very overpowered.

If you don't have the logistics to support a tank, you don't have a tank.

The fuel and parts for repairs on the tracks and engine would be the biggest problems for a solo survivor. Ammo too, although a tank would be very effective vs zombies even without ammo.

Repairing armor plating should be a nonfactor since zombies are not going to be able to do any meaningful damage to it.

Only damage would be their corpse pieces inside grinds..

[Pherdnut]

You need to ask because...?

[Umbra Animo]

Originally posted by Pherdnut:

You need to ask because...?

just thoughts. it's one of the NOs on the suggestions but I don't really see tanks in a survival situation as overpowered due to the huge costs to keep one running. but I also don't want to go and be one of those annoying people who nag for something with out even considering the fact the devs said no. But asking if Is in fact overpowered or not is fair since I just asking if my own thoughts could be missing details

[Vagineer1]

Now that'd be badass. Rolling up to Louisville in an Abrams.

[Pherdnut]

Originally posted by Umbra Animo:

Originally posted by Pherdnut:

You need to ask because...?

just thoughts. it's one of the NOs on the suggestions but I don't really see tanks in a survival situation as overpowered due to the huge costs to keep one running. but I also don't want to go and be one of those annoying people who nag for something with out even considering the fact the devs said no. But asking if Is in fact overpowered or not is fair since I just asking if my own thoughts could be missing details

Why do you want a tank? Because you could crush zeds for weeks on end as long as you didn't run out of gas is why. Fuel usage is impractical? Who are you competing with? everybody else is dead. Armor is hard to replace? How many of thousands of zeds do you crush before a tread actually gets misaligned or an armored plate gets bent?

If you want OP it's not like there aren't totally hilarious and amusing mods for this. Highly recommend the combine.

[Umbra Animo]

Originally posted by Pherdnut:

Originally posted by Umbra Animo:

just thoughts. it's one of the NOs on the suggestions but I don't really see tanks in a survival situation as overpowered due to the huge costs to keep one running. but I also don't want to go and be one of those annoying people who nag for something with out even considering the fact the devs said no. But asking if Is in fact overpowered or not is fair since I just asking if my own thoughts could be missing details

Why do you want a tank? Because you could crush zeds for weeks on end as long as you didn't run out of gas is why. Fuel usage is impractical? Who are you competing with? everybody else is dead. Armor is hard to replace? How many of thousands of zeds do you crush before a tread actually gets misaligned or an armored plate gets bent?

If you want OP it's not like there aren't totally hilarious and amusing mods for this. Highly recommend the combine.

I think your taking this the wrong way. its not I want a tank it's Is a tank actually Overpowered. And while I do feel military vehicles should be in the game some of the stronger ones like tanks could just be something to salvage for rare vehicle upgrade parts. if I wanted to crush a lot of zombies something like a steamroll or semi-truck would be far more practical. the point though is debating if Tanks are Powerful in this situation or just something situational at best.

[MV75]

That's why I can't wait for the mi5 hillbilly truck to get ported. That big bullbar would go very well in b42 where zombies are not brick walls anymore. Another better alternative would be a tracked apc. Could better maintain that and have gunner passengers as well as zombie terrain capabilities. A tank is pointless without an equal armoured foe. Heck even a couple of technicals would savage the hordes, especially ones loaded with a minigun. A better use of a full team for maintenance would be an A10.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Umbra Animo:

Originally posted by Pherdnut:

Why do you want a tank? Because you could crush zeds for weeks on end as long as you didn't run out of gas is why. Fuel usage is impractical? Who are you competing with? everybody else is dead. Armor is hard to replace? How many of thousands of zeds do you crush before a tread actually gets misaligned or an armored plate gets bent?

If you want OP it's not like there aren't totally hilarious and amusing mods for this. Highly recommend the combine.

I think your taking this the wrong way. its not I want a tank it's Is a tank actually Overpowered. And while I do feel military vehicles should be in the game some of the stronger ones like tanks could just be something to salvage for rare vehicle upgrade parts. if I wanted to crush a lot of zombies something like a steamroll or semi-truck would be far more practical. the point though is debating if Tanks are Powerful in this situation or just something situational at best.

In terms of whether I think tanks should be added to the game...

I'd say no. For mods, sure, but base game nah. Too powerful if you have the stuff to maintain it, too annoying to maintain it if it is at all realistic.

I think it would be nice to see some broken down tanks around important military locations though. Helicopters too.

[Umbra Animo]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Umbra Animo:

I think your taking this the wrong way. its not I want a tank it's Is a tank actually Overpowered. And while I do feel military vehicles should be in the game some of the stronger ones like tanks could just be something to salvage for rare vehicle upgrade parts. if I wanted to crush a lot of zombies something like a steamroll or semi-truck would be far more practical. the point though is debating if Tanks are Powerful in this situation or just something situational at best.

In terms of whether I think tanks should be added to the game...

I'd say no. For mods, sure, but base game nah. Too powerful if you have the stuff to maintain it, too annoying to maintain it if it is at all realistic.

I think it would be nice to see some broken down tanks around important military locations though. Helicopters too.

understandable. what about breaking down the tanks for materials and parts?

[hardy_conrad]

I hear tanks are good for cooking. Seriously. Apparently some bits get so hot you can just stick whatever you feel like roasting on it, provided you don't mind tank flavour.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

I hear tanks are good for cooking. Seriously. Apparently some bits get so hot you can just stick whatever you feel like roasting on it, provided you don't mind tank flavour.

And don't mind using 10 gallons of fuel per hour to cook food.