Item repair and sharpening.....

[Reapoman]

So I made the Sharpening wheel, or whatever its called, thinking I could fix up axe heads, better than whetstones, it done the same sharpening, I would have thought that it would have sharpened it to full or nearly, but no, it doesn't sharpen any more than the head condition, which I only seem to be able to improve with wood glue, wood glue should fix the handle, the Sharpening wheel, should sharpen and the anvil should fix the axe head....is this broken, or is it supposed to work like this? And as for the fire axe head, it can't be fixed by at all....

[Alex]

Originally posted by Reapoman:

it doesn't sharpen any more than the head condition, supposed to work like this

else it would be way too OP

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by Reapoman:

it doesn't sharpen any more than the head condition, supposed to work like this

else it would be way too OP

I disagree, it just makes crafting and maintaining weapons completely pointless, I could understand your op view, if it was some super rare and powerful weapon, but its just a plain old axe, they are a dime a dozen, so yeah, crafting and maintaining a weapon is completely pointless.

If the durability was a lot better, it might be worth that effort to maintain it, but as it is, its like they are made out of tinfoil, there's no point, may as well grab an iron bar or a frying pan lol

I went to the effort to make a proper sharpening machine, that done no different, than a hand held whetstone, that's just rubbish, they may as well not have bothered to add in the sharpening wheel.
Edit lol Using glue to fix a metal axe head, is just a zone killer, like I said wood glue needs to fix only the handle, anvil and forge fixes the head and the sharpening stone fixes the sharpness,

[Armagenesis]

It should get addressed in the future yes. But at the moment, you can cheese the need to perform maintenance by disassembling the item. It will magically return the head's condition to maximum.

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by Armagenesis:

It should get addressed in the future yes. But at the moment, you can cheese the need to perform maintenance by disassembling the item. It will magically return the head's condition to maximum.

Yeah I did cheese it, broke down an hatchet, it gave me the head in perfect nic, and didn't take away the axe I broke down lol
TBH the wood glue, fixing the axe head, pissed me off lol

[Alex]

Originally posted by Reapoman:

Originally posted by Alex:

else it would be way too OP

I disagree, it just makes crafting and maintaining weapons completely pointless, I could understand your op view, if it was some super rare and powerful weapon, but its just a plain old axe, they are a dime a dozen, so yeah, crafting and maintaining a weapon is completely pointless.

If the durability was a lot better, it might be worth that effort to maintain it, but as it is, its like they are made out of tinfoil, there's no point, may as well grab an iron bar or a frying pan lol

I went to the effort to make a proper sharpening machine, that done no different, than a hand held whetstone, that's just rubbish, they may as well not have bothered to add in the sharpening wheel.
Edit lol Using glue to fix a metal axe head, is just a zone killer, like I said wood glue needs to fix only the handle, anvil and forge fixes the head and the sharpening stone fixes the sharpness,

So you say, a piece of metal can be sharpened indefinitely maintaining shape and volume, cracks and chips magically disappearing and missing metal magically reappearing?
I disagree, as any sane person who did sharpening irl.
Maybe it should worn out a bit slower, but definitely should. I had my share of heavy-used shovels, axes, pickaxes irl, sharpening and thrashing it.

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by Reapoman:

I disagree, it just makes crafting and maintaining weapons completely pointless, I could understand your op view, if it was some super rare and powerful weapon, but its just a plain old axe, they are a dime a dozen, so yeah, crafting and maintaining a weapon is completely pointless.

If the durability was a lot better, it might be worth that effort to maintain it, but as it is, its like they are made out of tinfoil, there's no point, may as well grab an iron bar or a frying pan lol

I went to the effort to make a proper sharpening machine, that done no different, than a hand held whetstone, that's just rubbish, they may as well not have bothered to add in the sharpening wheel.
Edit lol Using glue to fix a metal axe head, is just a zone killer, like I said wood glue needs to fix only the handle, anvil and forge fixes the head and the sharpening stone fixes the sharpness,

So you say, a piece of metal can be sharpened indefinitely maintaining shape and volume, cracks and chips magically disappearing and missing metal magically reappearing?
I disagree, as any sane person who did sharpening irl.
Maybe it should worn out a bit slower, but definitely should. I had my share of heavy-used shovels, axes, pickaxes irl, sharpening and thrashing it.

I've had the same hammer for over a decade, still in perfect condition, I've the same kitchen knives for decades, as sharp as a razor and get used daily, so yeah, they do last a lifetime, I'd love to know what to hell your sharpening things with irl most trades men, have the same tools their entire lives and they are as sharp and as good as the day they bought them after decades, I'm guessing you've never done that type of graft, going by your statement lol

[Alex]

Originally posted by Reapoman:

Originally posted by Alex:

So you say, a piece of metal can be sharpened indefinitely maintaining shape and volume, cracks and chips magically disappearing and missing metal magically reappearing?
I disagree, as any sane person who did sharpening irl.
Maybe it should worn out a bit slower, but definitely should. I had my share of heavy-used shovels, axes, pickaxes irl, sharpening and thrashing it.

I've had the same hammer for over a decade, still in perfect condition, I've the same kitchen knives for decades, as sharp as a razor and get used daily, so yeah, they do last a lifetime, I'd love to know what to hell your sharpening things with irl most trades men, have the same tools their entire lives and they are as sharp and as good as the day they bought them after decades, I'm guessing you've never done that type of graft, going by your statement lol

I worked in earthworks, where the instrument is used by rough men like 10 hr/day. A pickaxe's pointy end was blunt like a hammer after one season. Shovel heads beyond sharpening (cracked or missing like 1/4 of surface) was discarded in sacks.
Your "decade use" is slicing bread and occasional nailing I assume? Way different from head cracking I'd say.

[DivineEvil]

Originally posted by Reapoman:

I've had the same hammer for over a decade, still in perfect condition, I've the same kitchen knives for decades, as sharp as a razor and get used daily, so yeah, they do last a lifetime, I'd love to know what to hell your sharpening things with irl most trades men, have the same tools their entire lives and they are as sharp and as good as the day they bought them after decades, I'm guessing you've never done that type of graft, going by your statement lol

How about actually doing something regularly with that hammer instead of just having it? Handles can easily crack over prolonged usage, and so will the metal head. Whether something look pristine doesn't mean its in perfect condition.

Won't even care about the story of everlasting knives - the more sharpened a blade is, the faster it will become dull. Bragging over fiction is hilarious.

[Tohtori Leka]

All the tools in PZ must have been made in China since they break so easily. This has always been my main gripe with the game. Everything breaks down so extremely fast. Tools that irl would last a couple decades at least if not a lifetime or more can break in one day of use in game.

[VANGUARD]

Whether tools last for decades or not depends on what these tools are used on.
A cooking knive cutting vegs and meat?
Little wonder that it keeps its shape for decades if it's maintained properly.
Hacking a zombie to redeath?
With all the bones and hectic/amateur swings it's little wonder that the tool breaks quickly.
Tools are created for a purpose and if they are used for something else you can't expect them to perform the same.

[Sally smithson]

To be honest, stuff does break faster than I remember compared to build 41

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

Originally posted by Reapoman:

I've had the same hammer for over a decade, still in perfect condition, I've the same kitchen knives for decades, as sharp as a razor and get used daily, so yeah, they do last a lifetime, I'd love to know what to hell your sharpening things with irl most trades men, have the same tools their entire lives and they are as sharp and as good as the day they bought them after decades, I'm guessing you've never done that type of graft, going by your statement lol

How about actually doing something regularly with that hammer instead of just having it? Handles can easily crack over prolonged usage, and so will the metal head. Whether something look pristine doesn't mean its in perfect condition.

Won't even care about the story of everlasting knives - the more sharpened a blade is, the faster it will become dull. Bragging over fiction is hilarious.

That was just an example, I've worked every type of job, a real working class dreg of society here, like I said trades mens tools last decades, sometimes their tools break on day one, but the majority of the time, they last decades, useless people on the worksite, tend to break other peoples tools right and quick, that's why they get told not to come back or get told to ♥♥♥♥ off, when they ask to use someones tools, so yes hammers last decades for a tradesman who uses it every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ day, as for spades or shovels, yes they break a bit more often, but like the other guy said, they blunted after a season, not a damn hour or 2 lol How about you and the other guy stop spouting crap, and at what point was I bragging about anything, that's just how you've read it.

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by Reapoman:

I've had the same hammer for over a decade, still in perfect condition, I've the same kitchen knives for decades, as sharp as a razor and get used daily, so yeah, they do last a lifetime, I'd love to know what to hell your sharpening things with irl most trades men, have the same tools their entire lives and they are as sharp and as good as the day they bought them after decades, I'm guessing you've never done that type of graft, going by your statement lol

I worked in earthworks, where the instrument is used by rough men like 10 hr/day. A pickaxe's pointy end was blunt like a hammer after one season. Shovel heads beyond sharpening (cracked or missing like 1/4 of surface) was discarded in sacks.
Your "decade use" is slicing bread and occasional nailing I assume? Way different from head cracking I'd say.

All I was saying that it's unrealistic, its called constructive criticism, not to debate with people talking ♥♥♥♥ like, they use their instruments, if a trades man called his tools his instruments, he would get laughed of the site lololol

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by Tohtori Leka:

All the tools in PZ must have been made in China since they break so easily. This has always been my main gripe with the game. Everything breaks down so extremely fast. Tools that irl would last a couple decades at least if not a lifetime or more can break in one day of use in game.

I can't argue with that, made in China tools would probably break if you lifted them, never mind using them lololo

[Reapoman]

Originally posted by VANGUARD:

Whether tools last for decades or not depends on what these tools are used on.
A cooking knive cutting vegs and meat?
Little wonder that it keeps its shape for decades if it's maintained properly.
Hacking a zombie to redeath?
With all the bones and hectic/amateur swings it's little wonder that the tool breaks quickly.
Tools are created for a purpose and if they are used for something else you can't expect them to perform the same.

Metal vs blood and bone, yes eventually they would blunt, the handle will eventually snap, but it would take a very long time, at most all you would need to do, is sharpen the thing or replace the handle, but the head of the axe or the blade or the pickaxe head, will last a lifetime.