Running over rats damages my vehicle's hood

[Forced Lobotomy]

Just puttin that out there for the Devs.

Hail Hydra.

[Omega Yeti]

Noticed this too, ran over a pack of rats and it killed my engine.

[MV75]

Running over anything is the same as running over a zom.

[Kohchu]

Originally posted by MV75:

Running over anything is the same as running over a zom.

Which means it should probably be fixed or at least adjusted, because it's kind of stupid. Rats are tiny; unless you are zoomed in at 25%, you probably won't even be able to see them.

The Devs praise realism; but I'm pretty sure if you ran over a rat in real life, you wouldn't even notice; and it certainly wouldn't make your engine blow up and all your tires fall off.

[Puppers]

tenderized rat milk meat

[Mr. Miazma]

Even with zombies, I mean if you ever read articles on extremists driving trucks through crowds....Only thing that stopped that was they crash into a wall.. Not saying make it god mode vs zombies, but I think vehicles should get beat up a bit less, especially if truck or van

[Kohchu]

Originally posted by Mr. Miazma:

Even with zombies, I mean if you ever read articles on extremists driving trucks through crowds....Only thing that stopped that was they crash into a wall.. Not saying make it god mode vs zombies, but I think vehicles should get beat up a bit less, especially if truck or van

Exactly this; whenever people complain about mechanics that make no sense; tons of people scream 'realism, reaism.' I won't doubt that a Vehicle would probably suffer issues from hitting things constantly; but a Truck is clearly going to win a fight against a body every time.

However; the amount of damage makes it feel like the cars in Project Zomboid are made out of the cheapest plastic money can buy. 4 Zombies hit, and your hood is gone... 5 more and your Engine is shot. If you want to use your Truck as a battering ram, I do agree there should be a penalty; and there is... and no, it's not the engine/hood damage.

The risk, is while the initial hit is good; if you hit a large mass of Zombies, your car will slow and eventually stop. IF you stop in the middle of a hoard; they will surround your vehicle; and now you will be unable to move. This leaves you stuck, while they slowly smash your windows, and rip you to shreds. THIS is why ramming Zombies is risky; the fact that your cars have the durability of a tin can, just makes them only viable as an escape option or hauling loot.

[DarkM4773r]

Thanks for the advice. More reason to keep debug menu enabled.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Forced Lobotomy:

Just puttin that out there for the Devs.

Hail Hydra.

When you drive over zombie corpses you also have the chance to have your hood damaged. When the car "bumps" it has a chance to damage your tires, the suspension, breaks and every other part randomly:D
So nothing really new:)

And hail Cobra:P

[Narrowmind]

Don't forget Kids, the other half of the battle is red lasers and blue lasers!

[MV75]

Originally posted by Kohchu:

Originally posted by MV75:

Running over anything is the same as running over a zom.

Which means it should probably be fixed or at least adjusted, because it's kind of stupid. Rats are tiny; unless you are zoomed in at 25%, you probably won't even be able to see them.

The Devs praise realism; but I'm pretty sure if you ran over a rat in real life, you wouldn't even notice; and it certainly wouldn't make your engine blow up and all your tires fall off.

Yep, I just lost my windscreen hunting rabbits with my car.

[hardy_conrad]

Originally posted by Mr. Miazma:

Even with zombies, I mean if you ever read articles on extremists driving trucks through crowds....Only thing that stopped that was they crash into a wall.. Not saying make it god mode vs zombies, but I think vehicles should get beat up a bit less, especially if truck or van

Moral of story : next time some nutbag decides to go on a vehicular rampage throw rats at them until their car explodes.

[Alex]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Originally posted by Forced Lobotomy:

Just puttin that out there for the Devs.

Hail Hydra.

When you drive over zombie corpses you also have the chance to have your hood damaged. When the car "bumps" it has a chance to damage your tires, the suspension, breaks and every other part randomly:D
So nothing really new:)

And hail Cobra:P

Myths actually. https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/592885544240813868/#c592885544240819460

[Beltneck]

Originally posted by hardy_conrad:

Moral of story : next time some nutbag decides to go on a vehicular rampage throw rats at them until their car explodes.

*puts a fence post in the middle of the road, behind a street light*

That'll take them from 60 to stop in under 0.1 seconds

[Moxley]

Originally posted by Kohchu:

Originally posted by Mr. Miazma:

Even with zombies, I mean if you ever read articles on extremists driving trucks through crowds....Only thing that stopped that was they crash into a wall.. Not saying make it god mode vs zombies, but I think vehicles should get beat up a bit less, especially if truck or van

Exactly this; whenever people complain about mechanics that make no sense; tons of people scream 'realism, reaism.' I won't doubt that a Vehicle would probably suffer issues from hitting things constantly; but a Truck is clearly going to win a fight against a body every time.

However; the amount of damage makes it feel like the cars in Project Zomboid are made out of the cheapest plastic money can buy. 4 Zombies hit, and your hood is gone... 5 more and your Engine is shot. If you want to use your Truck as a battering ram, I do agree there should be a penalty; and there is... and no, it's not the engine/hood damage.

The risk, is while the initial hit is good; if you hit a large mass of Zombies, your car will slow and eventually stop. IF you stop in the middle of a hoard; they will surround your vehicle; and now you will be unable to move. This leaves you stuck, while they slowly smash your windows, and rip you to shreds. THIS is why ramming Zombies is risky; the fact that your cars have the durability of a tin can, just makes them only viable as an escape option or hauling loot.

The fact bull bars get destroyed by zombies is wild to me. I've worked construction for years. My truck had a bull bar. I've driven through trees, hit concrete poles, used it to push down walls, hit heavy machinery like excavators with it... the works. Worst that ever happened was one side bent in slightly. I could hit the thing with a sledge hammer till my arms fell off and it wouldn't even dent it.

But 100 half rotten zombies apparently damage one enough to fall completely off your vehicle.

Makes zero sense in a game that focuses on "realism".

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Moxley:

Originally posted by Kohchu:

Exactly this; whenever people complain about mechanics that make no sense; tons of people scream 'realism, reaism.' I won't doubt that a Vehicle would probably suffer issues from hitting things constantly; but a Truck is clearly going to win a fight against a body every time.

However; the amount of damage makes it feel like the cars in Project Zomboid are made out of the cheapest plastic money can buy. 4 Zombies hit, and your hood is gone... 5 more and your Engine is shot. If you want to use your Truck as a battering ram, I do agree there should be a penalty; and there is... and no, it's not the engine/hood damage.

The risk, is while the initial hit is good; if you hit a large mass of Zombies, your car will slow and eventually stop. IF you stop in the middle of a hoard; they will surround your vehicle; and now you will be unable to move. This leaves you stuck, while they slowly smash your windows, and rip you to shreds. THIS is why ramming Zombies is risky; the fact that your cars have the durability of a tin can, just makes them only viable as an escape option or hauling loot.

The fact bull bars get destroyed by zombies is wild to me. I've worked construction for years. My truck had a bull bar. I've driven through trees, hit concrete poles, used it to push down walls, hit heavy machinery like excavators with it... the works. Worst that ever happened was one side bent in slightly. I could hit the thing with a sledge hammer till my arms fell off and it wouldn't even dent it.

But 100 half rotten zombies apparently damage one enough to fall completely off your vehicle.

Makes zero sense in a game that focuses on "realism".

Weakest link. the bars themselves can be as durable as Achilles if you want... That tender little heel though.

At the end of the day, The game has never been about realism.. It's about a pseudorealism that is pretty close to reality in comparison to most other games, but that ultimately makes concessions towards un-reality for sake of a more balanced game or, in some cases, a game at all. Zombies, after all, are quite un-real.

If it was completely real, The only zombies youd run into is people on their morning commute. If it were completely fake, you'd have unicorns dragons and magic (and more)

Having ANY easily accessible vehicle with or without an upgrade be a rolling tank that can kill infinite zombies just doesn't make for a good game balance.