Solar Panels, and Wind Mills.

[TankGoodness]

Why not?

[l_pha]

There is a mod in b41 for solar panels and energy but yeah they should be included in the base game maybe as late game options. If you run out of gas from gas stations there is no other way to power your generators.

[TankGoodness]

Gas can and bottles allows you to Siphon from cars

[diecastano]

Originally posted by l_pha:

There is a mod in b41 for solar panels and energy but yeah they should be included in the base game maybe as late game options. If you run out of gas from gas stations there is no other way to power your generators.

I used this mod in my main game at B41 and it was very balanced! It was not easy to find and provided a reason to search factories and other dangerous places. I see more value in this type of changes than in some we had for B42. But it is too early in the beta and lots of stuff can appear.

Another Mod that I think should become part of the game is Trucks. It is very nice to have a big storing unit on wheels. You can have a nomadic life for a while moving from city to city until settling in a permanent base.

[TankGoodness]

Originally posted by diecastano:

Originally posted by l_pha:

There is a mod in b41 for solar panels and energy but yeah they should be included in the base game maybe as late game options. If you run out of gas from gas stations there is no other way to power your generators.

I used this mod in my main game at B41 and it was very balanced! It was not easy to find and provided a reason to search factories and other dangerous places. I see more value in this type of changes than in some we had for B42. But it is too early in the beta and lots of stuff can appear.

Another Mod that I think should become part of the game is Trucks. It is very nice to have a big storing unit on wheels. You can have a nomadic life for a while moving from city to city until settling in a permanent base.

Ya Agreed, like Campers should have been common. Wood or coal burning Steam Train Engines too. But ya Carpentry would have been great to craft a wind mill.

[[Censored]]

Originally posted by TankGoodness:

Originally posted by diecastano:

I used this mod in my main game at B41 and it was very balanced! It was not easy to find and provided a reason to search factories and other dangerous places. I see more value in this type of changes than in some we had for B42. But it is too early in the beta and lots of stuff can appear.

Another Mod that I think should become part of the game is Trucks. It is very nice to have a big storing unit on wheels. You can have a nomadic life for a while moving from city to city until settling in a permanent base.

Ya Agreed, like Campers should have been common. Wood or coal burning Steam Train Engines too. But ya Carpentry would have been great to craft a wind mill.

in time sir... i know what the pz code looks like.... its like 15 million alien languages and 10000 years of their collective histories... any attempt to rush breaks it badly and then your not happy about that... at some point you have to step back and realize there is nothing better... nuthing even remotely close.... be happy with what ya got knowing more will come

[veryinky]

Many of the technologies that make home solar power possible came after 1993 or had not been commercialised yet.

Wind power to electricity was a century old by 1990 but the turbines were tiny compared to the ones built now in the 2020s, still enough to power everything on a farm. And these were built by the farmers or locals themselves.

So yeah, someone with carpentry, electricity, and a car alternator/portable gas generator could rig up a yee-olde 19th century farm wind electric turbine. It'd generate 1kw at best but that's what the little portable generators put out anyways.

[Beltneck]

Because 1993. When light bulbs needed 60 to 100 watts, and a $100,000 of solar panels would give you maybe 2000 watts on a really sunny day. Not something any but the top 1% of Kentuckians would have had...and even then they'd probably just get a diesel generator for 25,000 watts at 1/10th the price.

Just because something existed in a laboratory or some billionaire's pet project doesn't mean it was commercially available to most people.

[Animalman]

there are tools available for makeshift solar power include calculators for some of the micro-parts to haul for a custom modified rechargeable torch, man. Like rechargable i suppose it would have to be left out in the sun to get charge not kept in the pack or inventory

i do believe wind up, charge radios are old, and wind up torch, mechanical crank, were common items in the 90s and dating back much further.

[Beltneck]

Originally posted by Animalman:

there are tools available for makeshift solar power include calculators for some of the micro-parts to haul for a custom modified rechargeable torch, man. Like rechargable i suppose it would have to be left out in the sun to get charge not kept in the pack or inventory

Oh, you mean the calculator that needs 0.01 watts, because it was one of the only things around to use a liquid quarts screen?

Look up what an incandescent light bulb is, thats what was used everywhere. Things took more power than most laptop power supplies today.

Solar panels were not commercially available, and were less than 10% the efficiency of the ones we make now. They were never a viable power solution until we started making more energy efficient electronics. Thats why nobody used them.

[Animalman]

what about a potato battery?

President Jimmy Carter installed solar panels on the White House in 1979.

Its possible some Carter Jimmy Nuts. followed order with the patriarch of the time

[Beltneck]

Originally posted by Animalman:

what about a potato battery?

President Jimmy Carter installed solar panels on the White House in 1979.

Its possible some Carter Jimmy Nuts. followed order with the patriarch of the time

Potato battery, only need to bake about 300 of them to power a single calculator. Just because something makes electricity doesn't mean it makes enough electricity to be useful. Also the important step most people forget is that it is a Baked Potato battery, not a Potato battery, so you need to put a lot of heat energy into them first.

So if you're going to try ultimately converting heat energy into electrical energy, you should look up what a Sterling Engine and a Dynamo are.

As for Jimmy's little pet project, the very next president ripped those solar panels down because they cost more to maintain than they saved in power. Which also proves my point that only those with obscene wealth at their disposal could use solar panels at the time.

[Animalman]

There are other solar power sources which are old,
such as garden Pond solar powered pumps.

[Moofinek]

I don't think we need it that much since there are already a lot of things to fix and it's a moot point.
Anyway, I like the idea of ​​solar panels.

I will only add that today I found out that the Immersive Solar Arrays [BETA] mod is available for version 42, so why not give a try

[Quill]

I like how everyone is super focused on the Solar Panels but Wind has been used for a LONG time

Not for power until recently but mostly to drive gear systems like Flour Mills or Water Pumps

[Animalman]

most of the renewable energy efforts in Kentucky during the 90s focused on using landfill methane for small power plants. So this would be to fill a grave lol and the electrician then builds a power plant from the decomposing bodies ontop of grave tiles.

but you could also put trash in those graves.


Water had been pumped with wind in USA since the Industrial Era. There were not many other places in the world, still are not who use wind pumps though many homesteads have them in USA. They can deplete ground water and produce sink holes.