Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

Mr.Death Jul 14, 2022 @ 3:46am
Worth getting for PVP?
How big is the map? Does it take long to find other players in the world?
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Larus Jul 14, 2022 @ 4:03am 
Is it worth getting for the pvp? Depends on the person, but I'd say no. It's not the game strongest aspects right now.

The map is pretty big https://map.projectzomboid.com/ and it can take a long time to find someone. Amount of players and some coordination can help, like when you decide to meet in a certain city for a battle royal. Custom mods and specific server rules can change things by a lot too.
Tech Jul 14, 2022 @ 4:13am 
It's like DayZ in a way. huge map, limited number of players.

To get for PvP alone, join PvP central servers. You could wander for hours and find noone, maybe hearing a gunshot or two in the distance from either a world event or a player. Like DayZ, there are areas where the players flock to get some gear - that's probably where youll find the most players, are in areas where loot is typically plentiful, or of exceptional quality.

Alot of dead space too with large forests that never seem to end and a city that is betrayed in size by the map website doing no real justice to its true size.

To get the game for the PvP alone, its not worth it. To have the opportunity to find and ruin other players in a permadeath world, where progression is tied to how long you live without dying and how fast you are in getting to the loot, it makes stakes of getting into a fight very high. You could have looted everything, and have some of the best gear - only to be bitten in the leg by a zombie, and gunned down by a player with 1,000s of hours more than you and lose everything you spent hours to days grinding for.

Its a long term investment, alot of buildup and preparation, and risk high enough to make your entire body shake when youre in a fight, much less the rage you'll feel when you inevitably lose it all. Playing for PvP alone, the game is very hardcore. Doing it without a buddy is even more masochistic.
Animalman Jul 14, 2022 @ 4:48am 
Yeah.

The actual combat side vs player is tricky. But yeah it’s worth playing on pvp. I have shot and killed a number of players and have been shot. But you’ll find the players are not a challenge in comparison to zombies. To it’s probably better to buy it for pvp coop. That is you are a team of guys who will kill other people but work together to defeat and train up on zom. Is called a faction
Poe the Red Jul 18, 2022 @ 9:53pm 
It's so similar to DayZ. Even the inventory is the same style of clunkiness. Frustrating game. Has whatever magic DayZ had, though.
WarMage Jul 18, 2022 @ 10:03pm 
Man.... if that's how you think you might not be a good fit for this game.

This game is :

---- UNFORGIVING

---- UNCOMPROMISING

Anyway, yes, there's amazing PvP but only on some select servers.... a lot are PvE oriented. Depend what you're looking for.

The game's huge and there's much much MUCH more than PvP in it. Actually, I would consider that PvP is a very tiny little almost impossible to see part of Project Zomboid. Not that you can't do PvP but more that the game has so much content and most of it isn't PvP related.
hardy_conrad Jul 18, 2022 @ 11:01pm 
I don't really get the appeal of PvP in this game. Even if you're some super ultra amazing badass (as practically everyone claims to be), you're never more than one unseen sniper from having all your hard earned skill and effort going bye bye. Unless you're using some kind of mod like skill journal? The regular PvE multiplayer is fantastic though, provided you're on an active server. Such things do exist.
WarMage Jul 18, 2022 @ 11:11pm 
Yeah sorry Conrad but it's simpler than you think.

Most PvP players are doing it because they can piss on someone else. That's about it. As rude as it may sound that's basic psychology. They're doing it because it frustrate someone else, because they'll get a reaction, because they can ruin someone else day.

No really, I was one of the guys that didn't believe it but I'm wiser now. It's not about logic or time wasting no it's simply that they get a rush from ruining someone else day.

Same story with online hacks. It's pretty pointless. You might get a laugh for a bit but after 30 mins or an hour, why would you keep wallhacking ? Well, simply because for them, for those trash people, it's fun. It's endless fun and laugh.
Puppers Jul 18, 2022 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Death:
How big is the map? Does it take long to find other players in the world?

Someone in the pz discord tonight gave their friend's head a deep wound injury vis a spoon, on accident. Does that count lol?

CUTLERY WARS!!!!:handsup:
Invictus Jul 19, 2022 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by WarMage:
Yeah sorry Conrad but it's simpler than you think.

Most PvP players are doing it because they can piss on someone else. That's about it. As rude as it may sound that's basic psychology. They're doing it because it frustrate someone else, because they'll get a reaction, because they can ruin someone else day.

No really, I was one of the guys that didn't believe it but I'm wiser now. It's not about logic or time wasting no it's simply that they get a rush from ruining someone else day.

Same story with online hacks. It's pretty pointless. You might get a laugh for a bit but after 30 mins or an hour, why would you keep wallhacking ? Well, simply because for them, for those trash people, it's fun. It's endless fun and laugh.

You may be contaminated by griefers or PvAFK in certain survival games.

True PvP where all players are online and have the same tools (i.e., no P2W) is quite fun also, although now I do not have the time for that / am less interested in those games.

And the fun is not ruining someone's day at all.
Last edited by Invictus; Jul 19, 2022 @ 12:10am
WarMage Jul 19, 2022 @ 1:23am 
Mate, look around, you'll see what I'm saying.

One easy peasy example : Asmongold. Yes, Asmongold, that huge youtuber, he's the first to explain just how much of a d**khead he was when he was a bit younger. He spoke about it quite often just how much he went on and scammed people just because he could and because it was fun to do. He spoke about why, for a while, it was the main reason why he logged onto the game. I mean, the dude left with most of his own guild bank / items just because lawlz.

Yes, there's true PvP player that have respect and are great human being. Unfortunately, it's a minority.

Don't be blind to how humans are. That's just reality bro.
Invictus Jul 19, 2022 @ 2:34am 
Originally posted by WarMage:
Mate, look around, you'll see what I'm saying.

One easy peasy example : Asmongold. Yes, Asmongold, that huge youtuber, he's the first to explain just how much of a d**khead he was when he was a bit younger. He spoke about it quite often just how much he went on and scammed people just because he could and because it was fun to do. He spoke about why, for a while, it was the main reason why he logged onto the game. I mean, the dude left with most of his own guild bank / items just because lawlz.

Yes, there's true PvP player that have respect and are great human being. Unfortunately, it's a minority.

Don't be blind to how humans are. That's just reality bro.

Depends on the game (age of the playerbase), its community, and the people you play with. Seems you got burned.
WarMage Jul 19, 2022 @ 4:47am 
Ah, it's sad but you're missing the point dear fellow human being.

It's not about the game.
It's not about the playerbase.
It's not about the age.
It's not about the community.

It's about the humans. The humans and their psychology.

We are animals and we act like it. No matter how many veneer of civility you add on top, it's still what we are.

Bottom line is, if you understand psychology, you understand my point.

I won't deny that the factors you mentioned can help evaluate the toxicity of a playerbase but they are not the primary cause which is, ultimately, human psychology.
Grishnerf Jul 19, 2022 @ 5:19am 
this is not a pvp-centric game like dayZ
its more a solo/coop pve survival
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Invictus Jul 19, 2022 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by WarMage:
Ah, it's sad but you're missing the point dear fellow human being.

It's not about the game.
It's not about the playerbase.
It's not about the age.
It's not about the community.

It's about the humans. The humans and their psychology.

We are animals and we act like it. No matter how many veneer of civility you add on top, it's still what we are.

Bottom line is, if you understand psychology, you understand my point.

I won't deny that the factors you mentioned can help evaluate the toxicity of a playerbase but they are not the primary cause which is, ultimately, human psychology.

Some humans are toxic, not all humans. All toxic humans tend to flock to the same type of games.

Non-toxic humans tend to avoid those games to not get mixed with the toxic humans.

Ergo, there are some games (some them, although not a majority to any extent, PvP) mostly free from toxic humans, regardless of certain natural impulses being present, which can be controlled by more civilized, intelligent and evolved humans.
Last edited by Invictus; Jul 19, 2022 @ 6:02am
Sanctus Jul 19, 2022 @ 7:57am 
If you understand psychology you understand that human cruelty is a lot more nuanced than "we animal we bad".
The town next to mine was hit by a tornado and was severely damaged. If people were innately cruel then we would have seen looting the day after but instead we had hordes of people coming from other states to help clean up.
There was no benefit to those people and they were spending their own money on gas and renting trailers to help clear debris but they came anyways.
Sorry this isn't at all on topic but I dislike people using behavior in a video game to make a statement about human nature. How we act in a game does not reflect our humanity. The whole point of a game is to do things you couldn't or wouldn't do in real life.
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