Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

AMURA Sep 15, 2022 @ 4:56pm
Would Zombies [] [] Survive Insects and Flys if They Wiped Out all Life
Insects and Flys Would Eat Them in Short Time .... :ressurection::bonehead:
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Death (Banned) Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:20pm 
Not likely. Living dead type zombies are impossible. They would absolutely be eaten away by flies and other insects and that's if they didn't just stiffen up and fall over unable to move anymore. It makes it less fun if you think about it too much.
Animalman Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:22pm 
I say the same thing about if robots took over the world. It would just little bugs would make a nest and wee all over the circuit boards.

My gerbil who free roams and doesn’t often contact with me physically had a problem with one of his ears. And so I told him I would have to catch him tomorrow a few days back to take a look after signing to the ear etc etc. And he understood and got himself in a box of oats the next day where he’d poke his head out of a little hole he chewed and let me apply an anti mite liquid designed for ear mites for cats and dogs, and I got it into his ear. And it healed. But before that he was crying eyes watering squeaking scratching ear and secreting blood or liquid from that ear.

So yeah insects would have killed him and they would totally kill zombies. Arachnids especially. They are not even insect who breath through tubes in their skin. Arachnids contain a lung sack making them distinct and the exo skeleton is generally soft. And these guys evolutionary lineage are the most formidable parasite this world has ever seen. Aside the worm. Actually he’s worse than the worm. But generally flies would do little damage to a zom. But maybe a wasp would show interest or another carnivorous type.
Kaldrak Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:31pm 
Hol up.

Imagine, for a moment, rotting corpses swarming with flies and maggots, reaching out towards you, multi-legged insects crawling out of their gaping maws and dropping to the floor while they moan and stagger forward.
Animalman Sep 15, 2022 @ 5:47pm 
Sounds like a home delivery, company and lunch.

The zombie would ofc live until one of the insects crawled into its brain and made a nest assuming the zombie still radiates body heat.

But we are overlooking one of the most scary things and that is the spread of the disease via insect. Especially unwanted close contact with a zom transferring parasites viruses and bacterias.

But just aswell, for convenience. There could be a possibility that the zombie virus is lethal to these animals.
william_es Sep 15, 2022 @ 6:06pm 
yeah, that would be most likely (zombies just getting eaten by insects, etc), and don't forget bacteria. The invisible little buggers would be chewing away too. Bloating, rotting, splitting open. That's all the work of bacteria, and the waste gases they produces as they mulitply.

unlessssss....

the zombies had some radically altered body chemistry.

Something so toxic that bacteria can hardly grow in them at all, You might have bacteria rotting away the dead outer flesh, but unable to survive in whatever "living" biochemistry is going on internally in the zombie. If it moves, there's _HAS_ to be some kind of chemistry going on still. You could even have situations where insects would literally sense that the zombies should be avoided. Flys don't try to lay eggs in vats of acid or other chemicals, they find something edible that the maggots can eat. Zombies might not smell "edible" to them.
Winter Sep 15, 2022 @ 6:11pm 
Saying that a zombie couldn't survive past the normal decomp rate would require the assumption that there isn't something about the undead that makes them distasteful to our worlds standard clean up crews, bacteria, scavengers and bugs. It could be something about the virus or other chemicals in the body that caused them to become undead in the first place. I mean, it could be something like what happens to the bodies of heavy amphetamine users when they're discovered in nature, they're not scavenged because all those scavengers and whatnot can tell that the flesh is poisonous. Look it up, true fact.

Edit: lol, william, great minds think alike!!!
Last edited by Winter; Sep 15, 2022 @ 6:12pm
ProtecTron Sep 15, 2022 @ 7:12pm 
Insteresting gaming-nerd talk...

What about rain, winter, frost, heat waves affectring tissue, flesh and bones? Are they smart enough to seek shelter from heil, hurracaines, tornados? xD

It whould be rather common to see walkers, I mean, zeds, zombies... all beaten up a year after zombification, laying on the floor weakened, all that said above could happen unless, as said, chemestry behind them make them unsuitable for sustaining life...
Last edited by ProtecTron; Sep 15, 2022 @ 7:16pm
Kaldrak Sep 15, 2022 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by ProtecTron:
Insteresting gaming-nerd talk...

What about rain, winter, frost, heat waves affectring tissue, flesh and bones? Are they smart enough to seek shelter from heil, hurracaines, tornados? xD

It whould be rather common to see walkers, I mean, zeds, zombies... all beaten up a year after zombification, laying on the floor weakened, all that said above could happen unless, as said, chemestry behind them make them unsuitable for sustaining life...

TBH, the cold should slow the zombies something fierce. They have no way to regulate or generate body heat, so they should barely be able to move if it's cold enough. Basically be a bunch of zed popsicles till things get warmer.
Winter Sep 15, 2022 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Kaldrak:
Originally posted by ProtecTron:
Insteresting gaming-nerd talk...

What about rain, winter, frost, heat waves affectring tissue, flesh and bones? Are they smart enough to seek shelter from heil, hurracaines, tornados? xD

It whould be rather common to see walkers, I mean, zeds, zombies... all beaten up a year after zombification, laying on the floor weakened, all that said above could happen unless, as said, chemestry behind them make them unsuitable for sustaining life...

TBH, the cold should slow the zombies something fierce. They have no way to regulate or generate body heat, so they should barely be able to move if it's cold enough. Basically be a bunch of zed popsicles till things get warmer.

Just take the World War Z (BOOK NOT MOVIE!!!!) explanation where all the zeds freeze solid all winter, they explain it really well in that book, very logical. But F*ck that movie, its a disgrace to the book.
'They're essentially magic creatures' is my answer to this sort of q. Putting aside the flies, they'd have presumably the same caloric / water needs as a person and would starve / dehydrate in a similar timeframe (unless magic changed their metabolism).

Unless magic preserved their muscles + organs, they would get rigor mortis and decompose pretty damn fast without the ability to make new cells.
Animalman Sep 15, 2022 @ 8:56pm 
Problem is if all the zombies die from weather hurricane lightning strike insect and disease then there is such a thing as an end game. But I suppose you could have an infinite survival mode and then a story mode. And the story mode the zom are abit more environmentally sensitive the goal is to out live them. But there is variation now, you see some zombies do sucessfully manage to eat so buff the eaters into spinters or long memories nerf the weaklings into deathlings

However this is the lens of the current build, in the deep future maybe more zombies will be seen feasting on victims. And maybe they will take fresh uninfected corpse as food.
Last edited by Animalman; Sep 15, 2022 @ 8:59pm
hardy_conrad Sep 16, 2022 @ 12:31am 
Carp is right. Just once I wish someone in a zombie movie / tv show / whatever would state that obvious fact, namely that it's simply impossible so therefore must be magic. Walking Dead missed a trick there in my opinion, not as if simply pointing that out would negate the storyline. Like the only way other than magic is some kind of ridiculously advanced technology (nanomachines for example) that no human entity could ever possess. Aliens and magic for all intents and purposes might as well be the same thing.
Winter Sep 16, 2022 @ 1:04am 
"Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic." Just sayin'. Besides, a genetically modified virus might have totally unforeseeable effects. I know there's basically no way for zombies to logically exist, I just appreciate when game devs and authors try to at least stay consistent with their internal logic, in a way that doesn't destroy my ability to suspend my disbelief.
AMURA Sep 16, 2022 @ 3:23am 
Ponders on Peoples answer`s i`m glad its just not me who thinks about it :lunar2019piginablanket:
Robo Sep 16, 2022 @ 5:18am 
To an extent, I believe that Zombies are possible. 28 Days Later style zombies is a topic done to death, yet I would bring a new topic to the table, a combination of Living Dead and 28 Days Later.

Imagine a virus that not only causes its host to lose control and eat Human flesh, but also strengthen its immune system. This style of zombie would in theory, last for quite a while, which is reminiscent to Zomboid zombies. In my own head canon, I would say that the Zombies here still have fully intact skin which is evident by the fact that their corpses rot after death, and their organs have changed similar to vultures, which the Human meat they consume does not give them any diseases.
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