Trouble with towing

[PŌPPINGUMMY]

Been noticing I'm having more trouble towing cars in B42 compared to B41.

Currently using a Heavy Duty truck (think it's a Chevalier, the new one with the poorly sprayed camo paint). It looks to be in good condition, tires are inflated and all but seems when I tow my trailer it feels sluggish.

Towing other cars and wrecks is very difficult, especially when it goes off round. Gotta keep inching back and froth for a bit of momentum to pull a car.

Even going off road seems to slow down the car a lot. Does the type of part (Regular/Performance) make that big a difference?

So I'm not sure if I'm completely over looking something or if it's just kinda bugged in B42.

[Narrowmind]

It was too easy before. TIS wanted it to be more realistic.

[Armagenesis]

I noticed that you need to have the car you want to tow face forward if you want to be able to tow them. If it's a back-to-back towing then you won't be able to pull the car at all.

I need confirmation on this though, since at least that's what have been happening in my game.

[VANGUARD]

Driving backwards makes it go faster, but since you can only attach vehicles to the rear end of your car you get other complications in return.
I once managed to tow something this way, though.

[Dark Thoughts]

Noticed this too, even on just unmaintained roads. It feels a bit like driving through zombies with Sunday driver. It's not just slow (which I would not mind that much as far as the perk goes), but also low torque.

Originally posted by Armagenesis:

I noticed that you need to have the car you want to tow face forward if you want to be able to tow them. If it's a back-to-back towing then you won't be able to pull the car at all.

I need confirmation on this though, since at least that's what have been happening in my game.

Mine were facing the same direction as the car I was pulling with. I did not even realize you could tow them backwards until now.

[Alex]

Higher power 60+ quality engine + tire pump + road make wonders...
Type of part make significant difference in wearout especially offroad.

[Chromeo]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

It was too easy before. TIS wanted it to be more realistic.

As in basically impossible?

[Narrowmind]

I was teasing, but yeah, they've excused a lot of their new, poor decisions with exactly such reasoning. I used to find skill books all the time, and now there's nothing in the school, the books store, in any of the homes - oh, well, this is a hard game! You're not meant to find skill books anymore. It's supposed to be basically impossible to do any of those things you used to do! Describes the muscle strain. Explains the population. Explains everything. It's a work in progress, after all.

[Jethro]

Originally posted by VANGUARD:

Driving backwards makes it go faster, but since you can only attach vehicles to the rear end of your car you get other complications in return.
I once managed to tow something this way, though.

You can attach and tow vehicles to the front of your vehicle.

Originally posted by Chromeo:

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

It was too easy before. TIS wanted it to be more realistic.

As in basically impossible?

Yeah it’s ridiculous. I’ve posted in other similar threads. Anyone who’s ever towed a car IRL will know that anything on wheels can be towed quite easily. Unless it’s stuck in gear/in park, wheels roll easy. Doesn’t take much. As it is now it feels like you’re trying to pull a bulldozer behind you.

[LeFrench]

Originally posted by Chromeo:

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

It was too easy before. TIS wanted it to be more realistic.

As in basically impossible?

haha.

[LeFrench]

Originally posted by PŌPPINGUMMY:

Been noticing I'm having more trouble towing cars in B42 compared to B41.

Currently using a Heavy Duty truck (think it's a Chevalier, the new one with the poorly sprayed camo paint). It looks to be in good condition, tires are inflated and all but seems when I tow my trailer it feels sluggish.

Towing other cars and wrecks is very difficult, especially when it goes off round. Gotta keep inching back and froth for a bit of momentum to pull a car.

Even going off road seems to slow down the car a lot. Does the type of part (Regular/Performance) make that big a difference?

So I'm not sure if I'm completely over looking something or if it's just kinda bugged in B42.

you are not alone. experiencing the exact same thing. very difficult to tow. will try the backward thing. [edit. the backward towing worked. could reach 30mph consistently, which is what i recall from b41 tow speeds. i do have speed demon tho.]

i think i read a comment on one of the mods to remove the wheels of the towed vehicle. still have to try that out (because the wheels are adding braking and friction).

i tried to use the 'go brrrr' mod, which makes heavy duty more offroad capable, and standard and sports, less. but still having the same towing issues even with a heavy-duty car.

[namorufa]

I found a super cool "valkyrie's spear" van that was in good condition yet was super sluggish, it was struggling to even reach 30mph despite fully inflated tires and all green parts. Turns out the engine power was rather low (260hp), and towing was indeed hopeless. Even the tiny chevalier dart I found was more powerful (360hp). So yeah, check the engine power too aside from the engine condition.

Despite that towing backwards is indeed smoother no matter what car I use, I actually suspect that it's the one that's actually buggy since I don't think that's how it works IRL.

[Dark Thoughts]

Originally posted by namorufa:

I found a super cool "valkyrie's spear" van that was in good condition yet was super sluggish, it was struggling to even reach 30mph despite fully inflated tires and all green parts. Turns out the engine power was rather low (260hp), and towing was indeed hopeless. Even the tiny chevalier dart I found was more powerful (360hp). So yeah, check the engine power too aside from the engine condition.

Despite that towing backwards is indeed smoother no matter what car I use, I actually suspect that it's the one that's actually buggy since I don't think that's how it works IRL.

The Franklin Valuline has always been ♥♥♥♥, but you get the same result with a high powered sports car.

[Sunderbraze]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

It was too easy before. TIS wanted it to be more realistic.

Coming soon: Heavy chain and hook required to tow, because invisible tether not "realistic"

Doomed future aside, here's a couple things I've noticed about towing after a couple hundred hours in B42.

Reverse gear seems to be more powerful than first, regardless of the vehicle, but if you have to go forward, never let your vehicle get into second gear (this applies to more than just towing, i.e. offroading, getting stuck on shrubs, etc) you can tap the brakes so that it drops back down to first. Of course if it comes to a complete stop the only solution is to gradually yank by going back and forth. If you can't get past second gear, do not bother trying to tow long-term with the vehicle in question. Short-term towing to clear roadblocks is viable with almost any vehicle since you can at least make things budge by yanking back and forth.

Tires have an impact on towing viability. I don't even bother trying to tow long term without finding a set of performance tires at high durability. If you look at the vehicle mechanics you will see a traction number for the tire. It goes down with durability and quality (old/regular are trash compared to performance). I don't know what the ideal inflation is, but for my all-performance sets I've been doing 35/40 and results seem alright.

[Senor Smoke]

idiot check here; have you checked the tires on the trailer ur towing? I went to tow a big animal trailer i found only to realize the tires were at 0%; i was basically dragging it on its axels
as for the wrecks.... yeah. thats why wrecks IRL are lifted onto a big flatbed with a crane and then hauled off. which you don't have access to; get a torch & commit fuel to the cause if u don't want to inch it.

[Dark Thoughts]

Originally posted by Senor Smoke:

idiot check here; have you checked the tires on the trailer ur towing? I went to tow a big animal trailer i found only to realize the tires were at 0%; i was basically dragging it on its axels
as for the wrecks.... yeah. thats why wrecks IRL are lifted onto a big flatbed with a crane and then hauled off. which you don't have access to; get a torch & commit fuel to the cause if u don't want to inch it.

I tested this in the Week One mod, which sets the car quality to be in high condition.