Restless Sleeper, Sleepy Head and Wakeful

[johnson]

Heres what Sleepyhead, wakeful and restless does for those who don't know due to threads being bad.

Regular: Gets tired in about 15-16 hours, but can vary depending on if you do a lot of exercise and so on.
Sleeps for 9-10 hours at max tiredness.

Sleepyhead: Gets tired in only 12 hours, sleeps for 12. Very bad perk, since it will make you get tired while youre out fighting zombies probably.

Wakeful: a blessing, you get tired in around 19-21 hours and sleep for only around 5 hours.

Restless sleeper: Doesnt mess with you getting tired quicker, but you will sleep for periods of 3 hours and lose tiredness slowly, meaning that if you want a FULL sleep and 0 tiredness, you need to sleep, wake up, then sleep again, and then again for the 3rd time.

You can combine restless sleeper + wakeful as a really good combo actually.

[Nordil(Hun)]

The max tiredness does not seem accurate. You need 10-12 hours at max tiredness when you are wakeful.

Also the combo you describe is not that good, actually if you need to stay awake for continous times it is more of terrible.

Also the comparision is off, you mix sleep requirements with regular tiredness, and max tiredness, so you are basicly comparing peaches/pears to apples.

[johnson]

No. I compare regular with regular. Do/test it yourself and youll see.

[johnson]

Óh yeah no i actually slept when "inhumanly tired everyitme
And like i say, wakeful slept 6 hours, regular 9 and sleepyhead 12 hours

And im right with this thread bc lots of people didnt know wakeful actually made you stay awake longer, they thought it meant you just slept less. Do you have anything more to say?

[quothz]

Originally posted by johnson:

Óh yeah no i actually slept when "inhumanly tired everyitme

There's no such moodle. Nordil is right that it takes up to 12 hours to sleep off ridiculously tired.

[johnson]

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[johnson]

I had ridiculously "inhumanly tired" moodle and slept with wakeful, and he slept for 5:30 hours. Do this entire test urself. Im not spreading false information, like youre trying to say.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by johnson:

I had ridiculously "inhumanly tired" moodle and slept with wakeful, and he slept for 5:30 hours. Do this entire test urself. Im not spreading false information, like youre trying to say.

Are you using any mods? (I do not know the correct name of the moodles in english because i have it localized.)
Because max level tiredness is around 10-12 hours with wakeful.
without it is 14-16 or so.

If you are using mods, they likely alter it, and therefore you are not spreading false info for that specifially modded version that you play, however for everyone that play vanilla, or barely modded games you do.

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I still think that Sleepyhead is a terrible perk because, getting tired only 12 hours from waking up will kill you in the streets. And being wakeful, getting tired atleast 18 hours thats really good.

I mean i started these testing from restarting each world, with the said perk, doing 30 situps and eating at exact times. Wakeful, no perk, and sleepyhead all had different hours it took to get the first tired moodle, and to the 4th tired moodle. Wakeful took the longest to recieve "Ridiculously Tired", and Sleepyhead recieved that moodle almost 10 hours earlier or something.

[vokisreeby]

not sure that any of those mods effect sleep though. I play wakeful a lot and I don't sleep for more than 6 hours, regardless of how tired my character is.

[Playbahnosh]

Wakeful can actually be somewhat of a curse as well. Sure, you need less rest, but you'll never sleep through the night. Especially in the fall/winter months, it gets dark pretty early, and there's not much one can accomplish in the pitch black. Just sitting in the safehouse because you're not tired enough to sleep but it's too dark and dangerous outside to go anywhere, can be kinda irritating sometimes.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by vokisreeby:

not sure that any of those mods effect sleep though. I play wakeful a lot and I don't sleep for more than 6 hours, regardless of how tired my character is.

If you get to the max tiredness level, where it says you are about to faint from tiredness you will sleep around 10 hours with Wakeful. Sometimes even 12. (Well at least if it has not been changed in one of the past 1-2 patches. Since i last played when the MP came out, as Louisville really taxes my computer) Without it you can sleep like 16 hours too.
If you are not tired, you usually need 3.5-4 hours of sleep. Min tiredness 4-6 hour, med tired ness 6-8 and from there on two stages. (I am guessing you need 12 hours when your tiredness is maxed out even with wakeful, but i dont have mods to show tiredness levels.)

[Playbahnosh]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

i dont have mods to show tiredness levels

You can try
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2004998206
It's very non-intrusive and shows all you major stats. I can't imagine PZ without it anymore.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Playbahnosh:

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

i dont have mods to show tiredness levels

You can try
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2004998206
It's very non-intrusive and shows all you major stats. I can't imagine PZ without it anymore.

Nah part of the magic is not knowing and just doing it by the feels:)
(allthough i do have a strange mind of recognizing patterns so it helps a lot:D)

[Playbahnosh]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Nah part of the magic is not knowing and just doing it by the feels:)
(allthough i do have a strange mind of recognizing patterns so it helps a lot:D)

I didn't mean permanently, but at least you can use it to verify your experiments. Then you can turn it off again if you wish.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Playbahnosh:

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Nah part of the magic is not knowing and just doing it by the feels:)
(allthough i do have a strange mind of recognizing patterns so it helps a lot:D)

I didn't mean permanently, but at least you can use it to verify your experiments. Then you can turn it off again if you wish.

I know, i've known the mod to be around for a long while now.
However the moment i install it the magic is gone, because thereafter my optimising mindset kicks in. And i will start to pay more and more attention to it, and therefore i will likely not uninstall it.