Suggestion - Ability to chop of limbs to save character from turning

[вαcση]

I know theres a mod for this, but having this feature base game would be good.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Allright, but in this case let us also add shock into the mix. As in when you chop of your own limbs your character might also get a shock and die.
Also let us add, any kind of other medical issues that may emerge when an unqalified person performs an amputation. Like different kind of bacterial infections and so on.

In PZ if you chop of your limb to save you from turning, you likely die, just not emerge a zombie. So sadly it is not really worth it.

[вαcση]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Allright, but in this case let us also add shock into the mix. As in when you chop of your own limbs your character might also get a shock and die.
Also let us add, any kind of other medical issues that may emerge when an unqalified person performs an amputation. Like different kind of bacterial infections and so on.

In PZ if you chop of your limb to save you from turning, you likely die, just not emerge a zombie. So sadly it is not really worth it.

yeah, but it would be a choice between survive a couple more days before dying of infection, or chop your arm or whatever off, with a small chance to survive it. For those who want to take the chance they may be able to keep playing as that character. Plus it could also come with traits to start without a specific limb, for people who want more challenge and more customisation or something.

Just an extra feature to add more realism into the game.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by вαcση:

Just an extra feature to add more realism into the game.

If you want realism, then chopping a limb off isn't it. It's completely and totally implausible for a human being to chop any limb off before the virus spreads to the rest of their body.

In reality, You'd have to drop everything you're doing the instant of a scratch/laceration/bite to chop your limb off- You've got at BEST about 15~ seconds to fully slice your limb off before the virus will have exited the limb and entered the rest of your body. At best. That's assuming a resting BPM and an injury on the furthest point of your extremity.. At a hyped up state where your heart is pounding in a panic/fight/surprise, You've got way less time than even that, and if the injury is closer to your core, even less time still.

And that's before touching on the fact that even starting at a resting bpm, just the stress you put your body through trying to cut your own limb off is going to make your heart pound or a few other factors.

Also.. Yknow.. the fact that there will be a zombie, right there, in the exact moments you need to be desperately sawing your limb off. So....

It's an.. interesting idea in practice, to just lop your arm off to save yourself, And ultimately it'll make your life a living hell and is just prolonging things a little bit because being down an arm WILL get you killed in short order.. But really, It just bypasses the spirit of the game, and it's not even realistically viable since almost no person in the world could cut their limb off in 5-10 seconds even if the alternative is sure death, so it's doubly unlikely to make it into the vanilla game.

[вαcση]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by вαcση:

Just an extra feature to add more realism into the game.

If you want realism, then chopping a limb off isn't it. It's completely and totally implausible for a human being to chop any limb off before the virus spreads to the rest of their body.

In reality, You'd have to drop everything you're doing the instant of a scratch/laceration/bite to chop your limb off- You've got at BEST about 15~ seconds to fully slice your limb off before the virus will have exited the limb and entered the rest of your body. At best. That's assuming a resting BPM and an injury on the furthest point of your extremity.. At a hyped up state where your heart is pounding in a panic/fight/surprise, You've got way less time than even that, and if the injury is closer to your core, even less time still.

And that's before touching on the fact that even starting at a resting bpm, just the stress you put your body through trying to cut your own limb off is going to make your heart pound or a few other factors.

Also.. Yknow.. the fact that there will be a zombie, right there, in the exact moments you need to be desperately sawing your limb off. So....

It's an.. interesting idea in practice, to just lop your arm off to save yourself, And ultimately it'll make your life a living hell and is just prolonging things a little bit because being down an arm WILL get you killed in short order.. But really, It just bypasses the spirit of the game, and it's not even realistically viable since almost no person in the world could cut their limb off in 5-10 seconds even if the alternative is sure death, so it's doubly unlikely to make it into the vanilla game.

These are good points, sure, but at the end of the day it is a game, stuff like bacterial infections, and shock don't exist and probably wont exist in pz for a long time, if ever.

Most people wouldn't be able to kill a zombie the first time they see one, yet characters in pz do. Do your point about not chopping off your arm quick enough, pz characters could, and again because its a video game, you most likely have abit longer then 10 - 15 seconds.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by вαcση:

Originally posted by Shurenai:

If you want realism, then chopping a limb off isn't it. It's completely and totally implausible for a human being to chop any limb off before the virus spreads to the rest of their body.

In reality, You'd have to drop everything you're doing the instant of a scratch/laceration/bite to chop your limb off- You've got at BEST about 15~ seconds to fully slice your limb off before the virus will have exited the limb and entered the rest of your body. At best. That's assuming a resting BPM and an injury on the furthest point of your extremity.. At a hyped up state where your heart is pounding in a panic/fight/surprise, You've got way less time than even that, and if the injury is closer to your core, even less time still.

And that's before touching on the fact that even starting at a resting bpm, just the stress you put your body through trying to cut your own limb off is going to make your heart pound or a few other factors.

Also.. Yknow.. the fact that there will be a zombie, right there, in the exact moments you need to be desperately sawing your limb off. So....

It's an.. interesting idea in practice, to just lop your arm off to save yourself, And ultimately it'll make your life a living hell and is just prolonging things a little bit because being down an arm WILL get you killed in short order.. But really, It just bypasses the spirit of the game, and it's not even realistically viable since almost no person in the world could cut their limb off in 5-10 seconds even if the alternative is sure death, so it's doubly unlikely to make it into the vanilla game.

These are good points, sure, but at the end of the day it is a game, stuff like bacterial infections, and shock don't exist and probably wont exist in pz for a long time, if ever.

Most people wouldn't be able to kill a zombie the first time they see one, yet characters in pz do. Do your point about not chopping off your arm quick enough, pz characters could, and again because its a video game, you most likely have abit longer then 10 - 15 seconds.

No, as Shurenai went into quite the details and approached it from a different but still very valid aspect, he is right.

Just because it is a video game, you still wont have more than 10-15 seconds. Because the player is a human.

Your agrument that just because it is a video game is actually not an argument.
Because I can also add that just because it is a video game we can totally do well enough without this system. Since it adds nothing to the game. The character will most likely die, prolonging with a mostly useless or barely useable character will not add anything to most of the playerbase. If you want to have it for roleplay purposes you already have this option as there is/are mod(s) to support this.
But devoting development time for a system that most players likely will not use or care about, is just a huge waste.
(Not to mention your whole logic why it should be added is based on false assumptions of certain series, where this in contradiction to realism was a viable option. In most Zombie movies, this is not added because it is a viable option to prolong life, but because it is an extra dramatic movie, which they can use to prolong dramatic scenes thus reduce the cost of the movie greatly. I am an avid zombie movies fan, but i always found it hillarious why this is even added, as anyone knowing just a bit of biology would understand that this is not a viable option as within a minute every blood cell in your body passes through multiple times through your heart, as you know it keeps the flow and pumps.)