Swords would be nice!

[kimdownunder]

Considering the number of martial arts fans in the USA, I would have expected to find the occasional samurai sword. There could be two "grades" available, the most common being a cheap nasty wall-hanger which wears out or breaks at some stage, and a more hard-to-find QUALITY blade which lasts a LONG LONG time. Both sword types would need sharpening every now and then, so whet stones could be added to the list of discoverable items. Yes?

[Atwood]

An actual, combat quality katana would be too out of place and the cheap decorative replicas aren't worth anything at all. I'd rather break them down and make them into knives for cooking and butchering, you'd get far better use out of them in the long run.

Antique cavalry sabers as the rare high quality sword and light/heavy machetes as the more common weapons, though? I could go with that.

[Obama llama]

Considering its the USA there should be more stupidly powerful guns but welp. Rip balancing. Considering the range of melee weapons we have I don't think a sword would be added. A machete? Sure but I think a sword is a bit too convenient

[neofutur]

agreed, swords would be nice.

[Landor]

i wouldnt mind some oddball weapons like a katana for nothing else then an easter egg, but i would think they would have to be exceedingly rare, and not be able to out-perform a more commonly found modern counterpart.

and on a machete, yes please, aside from wanting another two-handed bladed weapon, i would think a machete would be more effective at fighting zombies then an axe. certainly would be lighter and easier to hit where you want with it, cutting off a zombies head would be practicaly as effective as smashing it.

[Atwood]

It'd depend on how heavy the blade is. I'd say most machete are too light to pierce a zombie's skull. Too flimsy to not break if it strikes bone a little too hard. Probably better at killing a living adversary than an undead one. An axe would be preferable for the undead. Way more solid piece of metal. Better for cracking open the tough bits.

[Landor]

entirely depends on the quality of the machete and the edge of the blade, the cheap $5 ones at walmart would be entirely ineffective at cutting through flesh, let alone bone, but a high quality one with a sharp edge, and an experinced user able to put the right part of the blade in the right part of the zombie could easily cut the head clean off in one motion.

it also depends what kind of zombies, asuming its the max brooks type of zombies, cutting the head of is just as effective as smashing the head to bits.

[Slimane]

Hydrocraft already adds a good selection of swords, including mahetes and craftable swords.

[Red Bat]

Where exactly do you live where you'd expect to run into freaking sword collections in people's homes? I know some people have them, but finding them in a random house in America would be akin to winning the lottery. Pretty sure more people have automatic rifles and drones than swords here.

I DID have a sword collection myself at one point, but they were cheap decorative swords I bought off the TV while drunk and would probably be worthless at fighting zombies. In fact they would probably break after one swing.

Also swords would be terrible weapons for fighting zombies unless they were big European 2 handed swords, and even then there are far better weapons that would need less maintainence and aren't as awkward to lug around everywhere.

A katana would be rendered worthless as a weapon after killing a few zombies as the edge wears out quickly, assuming you don't snap the damn thing off in someones rib cage. Especially the type of katanas you would expect to find in a Japanophiles house, given that they have to be made a certain way to be practical in a 1 on 1 fight, and even the ones made properly (which are extremely expensive and generally have to be imported) will wear down very quickly as they were never designed to be durable. It's actually ironic how real samurai hardly ever used the katanas they were known for. Because quite frankly, they weren't historically very useful to begin with.

[Whiskeyjack]

Longswords. Little more heavy than a katana, but more powerfull. Extremely rare to find. The expensive and the cheap have different damage. Thanks

[Whiskeyjack]

Good comment, I used longswords, similars to European two handed swords and they are really nice in 1vs1. In a zombie apocalypse it's a better option than a katana. English isn't my first language, so sorry for the mistakes.

[Obama llama]

Originally posted by Landwolf:

i wouldnt mind some oddball weapons like a katana for nothing else then an easter egg, but i would think they would have to be exceedingly rare, and not be able to out-perform a more commonly found modern counterpart.

and on a machete, yes please, aside from wanting another two-handed bladed weapon, i would think a machete would be more effective at fighting zombies then an axe. certainly would be lighter and easier to hit where you want with it, cutting off a zombies head would be practicaly as effective as smashing it.

The downside of a machete is that it would have little to no knockback (as you would expect from a bladed weapon) and it would probably get dulled quite fast. Tool sharpening kits?

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by Whiskeyjack:

Good comment, I used longswords, similars to European two handed swords and they are really nice in 1vs1. In a zombie apocalypse it's a better option than a katana. English isn't my first language, so sorry for the mistakes.

In a zombie apocalpse a freaking golf club is a better option than a katana. It's not the great weapon that Japanophiles seem to think it is to begin with, and a zombie apocaplse is just about the worst enviroment to use a thin single edged sword not built for durability.

[Obama llama]

Originally posted by Grilleds:

Originally posted by Whiskeyjack:

Good comment, I used longswords, similars to European two handed swords and they are really nice in 1vs1. In a zombie apocalypse it's a better option than a katana. English isn't my first language, so sorry for the mistakes.

In a zombie apocalpse a freaking golf club is a better option than a katana. It's not the great weapon that Japanophiles seem to think it is to begin with, and a zombie apocaplse is just about the worst enviroment to use a thin single edged sword not built for durability.

Not the golf club in this game. God i hate that weapon.

[Landor]

Originally posted by Obama llama:

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perhaps, on one hand, knives and the axe dont lose effectiveness the more you use them, they just end up breaking when the durability runs out, on the other, it wouldnt be fair nor realistic (buh, i dont like using that word in relation to games) for only the machete to need sharpening.

perhaps with the addition of a sharpening kit, it could also seperate bladed from blunt more?

with somthing else to mantain, i would suggest changing bladed a bit as well, perhaps reducing the exaustion loss compaired to blunt?

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by Obama llama:

Originally posted by Grilleds:

In a zombie apocalpse a freaking golf club is a better option than a katana. It's not the great weapon that Japanophiles seem to think it is to begin with, and a zombie apocaplse is just about the worst enviroment to use a thin single edged sword not built for durability.

Not the golf club in this game. God i hate that weapon.

Well, golf clubs make absolutely terrible makeshift weapons because they are balanced poorly and for cheaper golf clubs you need to be careful how you swing them so they don't bend, and you need to be really strong to cave someone's skull in with them (zombies don't die from the usual amount of head trauma that would kill a normal person after all). But a bent golf club can still be used to clonk someone over the head with and it requires no real maintenance.

A katana loses all usability if the blade get's nicked bad enough. Yes, a single zombie will be an easy kill. But 4-5? Good luck. You can try sharpening the blade between uses, but once that thing bends, breaks, or chips... It's completely useless, and therefore, a really poor choice for zombie survival. Same with a lot of western swords too actually. The bigger swords are a bit better because you can use the weight of the weapon to cut or at least crush things once the edge get's worn, and it's easier to maintain them. Honestly though, blunt weapons or REALLY simple bladed weapons like wood cutting axes are going to be better in this case.

Originally posted by Landwolf:

Originally posted by Obama llama:

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perhaps, on one hand, knives and the axe dont lose effectiveness the more you use them, they just end up breaking when the durability runs out, on the other, it wouldnt be fair nor realistic (buh, i dont like using that word in relation to games) for only the machete to need sharpening.

perhaps with the addition of a sharpening kit, it could also seperate bladed from blunt more?

with somthing else to mantain, i would suggest changing bladed a bit as well, perhaps reducing the exaustion loss compaired to blunt?

Axes are wedge shaped. Should still cut things even if the edge get's worn down a bit. I mean these things are designed to strike hard wood repeatedly after all. Then again a blunted machete is still a pretty dangerous weapon too.