Are Strenght & Fitness Affected by XP Boost (Starting Skill Points)?

[Jetther Terminae [on a break]]

Hello, I'm looking to do a looong run.... Or atleast try to... So I'm trying to make a character with a lot of traits which I wouldn't be able to acquire through grinding, even if they aren't truly that necessary.

So basically, I have this question:

Are the Passive skills (Strenght and Fitness) XP gains truly affected by the starting skills' XP boost?

For Exercising? And for regular gains? (Walking, overcumbered, fighting)

I mainly plan on acquiring those skills through Exercising.
So I tested it by spawning with a 0/0 character and a 3/3 character and doing 1 squat and 1 push up on each.
Result: BOTH of them gained the same xp amount: 4XP for FIT through the squat, and 6XP for STR through the push up.

So... Does the XP Boost from starting skill points for the passive skills even affect them?
From what i believe (didn't test this one), it might affect regular XP gain from moving around, being overcumbered and fighting... But not exercising??


I wouldn't mind creating a character with 0/0 passive skills if that's the case, I generally play with 3/3, and I'm pretty sure I could level up to 2/2 quite fast enough.
1 Month in and I would be 3/3 and 2,5 months in i'm back to good old regular 5/5.

Otherwise, is that boost truly worth if it doesn't even affect exercising?

[Grizzly]

they are not, i always start with 0 in both so i should notice that the most but even when not looking at my own experience, ive read it like 100 times by now


what i do to build up the levels from 0 is for the first two weeks actually just fighting zombies, and clearing the area i settle at/getting important stuff in the meantime. thats kinda hard to manage along with the TV shows but otherwise its fine. usually gets me to two strength and one fitness at the end of that time, and then i start with training which will begin with 20 min in the morning and 20 min in the evening and i only do burpees. increase the amount of training if my characters exercise fatigure isnt bad anymore.

with the run im at atm im on default apocalypse options and thats my stats/time survived
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3084121194
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3084121118
and the training regularity is nearly maxed by now
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3084122412

[Nordil(Hun)]

STR and FIT are abilities.
So no skill bonus affects them, neither does fast or slow learning.
Push and stomp give good xp for those, so if you are able instead of excercising you can also engage in HTH against zombies.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

STR and FIT are abilities.
So no skill bonus affects them, neither does fast or slow learning.
Push and stomp give good xp for those, so if you are able instead of excercising you can also engage in HTH against zombies.

Wiki is bad then it shows a 125% boost both in a picture as well as in text, but for sure seems like it remains unaffected by the boost or rather its all flat rated, but kinda annoying that wiki is wrong.

[Armagenesis]

Originally posted by tommy_b_schmidt:

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

STR and FIT are abilities.
So no skill bonus affects them, neither does fast or slow learning.
Push and stomp give good xp for those, so if you are able instead of excercising you can also engage in HTH against zombies.

Wiki is bad then it shows a 125% boost both in a picture as well as in text, but for sure seems like it remains unaffected by the boost or rather its all flat rated, but kinda annoying that wiki is wrong.

The 125% bonus only appears if you start at level 5 strength and/or fitness.
And since the exp gain for both is pretty small each time you gain them, it looks as if the bonus don't apply.

[Metalhead123]

Just go unemployed proff and put the points you get into the strength and fitness traits. Trust me your charactor will be a machine. No need for exercise :)

[hardy_conrad]

Mostly I'm just amazed Grizzly begins the game with zero for both. I generally play with a low fitness myself, although not that low, so it's certainly doable. But zero strength? Daaaaaaamn.....

[rmemech]

i play a burglar every time with the following negative traits:

UNFIT (-4 fitness, but disappears when you level fitness to lvl 5)

VERY UNDERWEIGHT (-2 fitness and starting weight of 60 kilos, but you can lose this trait once you hit 75 kilos)

WEAK (-5 strength, but you lose this trait once you level strength to lvl 5)

HIGH THIRST (carry 2 water bottles, problem solved)

HARD OF HEARING (i don't play with my headphones on anyway usually)

WEAK STOMACH (don't eat rotten food, no issue)

SHORT SIGHTED (smaller vision cone, wear regular glasses and you get regular cone)

SLOW READER (if you sit in your house, for the most part except for necessities, to exercise, gain weight and watch TV, why not?)

This give me a total of 47 EXTRA POINTS!!!

burglar gives you 2 in lightfooted, nimble and sneaking so this gets me around surrounding houses to steal their food to sustain me while i exercise and build my weight up the first 2 weeks. cover your windows with curtains and keep your door closed and most zombies will bypass you.

by the time the helicopter event finally finishes, I am ready to kill with hardly any drawbacks. BTW, I play on insane pop and currently playing in louisville.

[Xero_Daxter]

I actually gained a level of strength passively just by carrying heavy stuff all the time. I’m always overencumbered.

[Lokaror]

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

I actually gained a level of strength passively just by carrying heavy stuff all the time. I’m always overencumbered.

Yeah, this is probably how i get most of my STR exp too.

[hardy_conrad]

Increasing strength and fitness are fairly simply at the very low levels. But once they start getting past five things are incredibly slow. Forget about going from nine to ten, even from something like seven to eight takes ages. Maybe settings help I guess, mods certainly do. But in vanilla levelling them both to ten is a long term project and then some.

Mind you for fitness at least there isn't really a compelling reason to max it out. Once it reaches a level where you can bonk zombies without exhausting yourself you're gold really. Getting by with a strength of less than ten however is pretty excruciating. Yes you can still carry loads of stuff but the way you're slowed down has a real negative impact.