Very underweight is there a permanent fix to this trait?

[Seelander]

Hi, completely new to this game, but always trying to find my own ways testing out stuff. Been watching a bit of YT videos to understand mechanics etc,

So i get that fitness and strenght is very good to have etc. but does the very underweight or underweight for that matter, give you permanent issues apart from surviving early game or do the weight gain counter all negatives?

Was thinking of a defensive start building up for the first 9 days watching those tv shows, reading books etc.

[Siodog]

No, just get fat to fix it

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

The fitness and strength debuffs from taking the trait at the start don't "fade", you have to level up both attributes to fix that, but you can do that while still underweight.

[Armagenesis]

The penalty from weight related trait is very severe imo, so it's best avoided. It takes a long time to regain the lost fitness/strength. Too much time even.

Unless, you plan on having a multi-character playthrough, then your stay-at-home characters shouldn't have issues taking those negative traits.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by Armagenesis:

The penalty from weight related trait is very severe imo, so it's best avoided. It takes a long time to regain the lost fitness/strength. Too much time even.

Unless, you plan on having a multi-character playthrough, then your stay-at-home characters shouldn't have issues taking those negative traits.

Thx all would it make sense to counter with fit?

[[AN] Mad Scientist]

get to 75-85 and you will be on weight, above or below you will have penalties

[King Smidgens]

There's two parts to taking the trait:


-It lowers your Fitness skill's starting value

You can regain this Fitness by exercising or running. It takes a long time.


-Having the trait itself gives you a debuff to varied stats

You can get rid of this debuff by gaining weight. It's not super difficult to regain the weight at the beginning.



The combination of those two factors will give you a slightly harder start, but the points are pretty lucrative if you can make it in the long run.

If you want to take the trait I'd say take Fitness into the negatives. The bonus XP for having points doesn't currently do anything for Passives so you just start at a certain level and it doesn't take super long to get to 1. You could have a few extra points instead!

Do not get Asthmatic.

Find a playstyle that works for you. I'm finding the value in actually starting with Fitness and Strength now and making up for it with other negatives (or taking fewer positives)

[BanDHMO]

There's a strategy I read in the past to get a few free points that goes like this. Take Very Underweight, which gives you +10pts and -2 Fitness. Take Fit, which costs -6pts and gives you +2 Fitness. Until power goes out, stuff your face many times per day with perishable high-calorie foods like ice cream, burgers, cakes, etc to get back to healthy weight. Earn a net of 4 points at the cost of aggressively eating in the early weeks and the temporary penalties until weight is gained.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by BanDHMO:

There's a strategy I read in the past to get a few free points that goes like this. Take Very Underweight, which gives you +10pts and -2 Fitness. Take Fit, which costs -6pts and gives you +2 Fitness. Until power goes out, stuff your face many times per day with perishable high-calorie foods like ice cream, burgers, cakes, etc to get back to healthy weight. Earn a net of 4 points at the cost of aggressively eating in the early weeks and the temporary penalties until weight is gained.

Conversely, You can take Overweight and just eat enough to stave your hunger at bay while stocking up high calorie stuff, straight 6 points and you'll lose it fast by starving yourself.

If you wanna go big, do Obese which is 10pts and then take Fit and do the same- Same net positive of 4 pts, and even longer to just stock away food.

Doing it with overweight/obese though means you need to bank on getting a generator and the magazine early enough that you can cope with, And overall you need a pretty good idea of what to eat and when so you don't let a lot of food rot.

Each tactic has it's ups and downs. Personally I prefer going overweight/obese between the two- The reduced damage from very underweight drives me batty, Rather deal with lower stamina and pick and choose my fights more carefully than have to fight the same zombie for an hour.

[Cyant [HOBO]]

Eat a lot of melted ice cream :)

[BanDHMO]

Originally posted by Shurenai:

Originally posted by BanDHMO:

There's a strategy I read in the past to get a few free points that goes like this. Take Very Underweight, which gives you +10pts and -2 Fitness. Take Fit, which costs -6pts and gives you +2 Fitness. Until power goes out, stuff your face many times per day with perishable high-calorie foods like ice cream, burgers, cakes, etc to get back to healthy weight. Earn a net of 4 points at the cost of aggressively eating in the early weeks and the temporary penalties until weight is gained.

Conversely, You can take Overweight and just eat enough to stave your hunger at bay while stocking up high calorie stuff, straight 6 points and you'll lose it fast by starving yourself.

If you wanna go big, do Obese which is 10pts and then take Fit and do the same- Same net positive of 4 pts, and even longer to just stock away food.

Doing it with overweight/obese though means you need to bank on getting a generator and the magazine early enough that you can cope with, And overall you need a pretty good idea of what to eat and when so you don't let a lot of food rot.

Each tactic has it's ups and downs. Personally I prefer going overweight/obese between the two- The reduced damage from very underweight drives me batty, Rather deal with lower stamina and pick and choose my fights more carefully than have to fight the same zombie for an hour.

The problem with going it the other way is that unlike lower weight traits, Overweight and Obese both exclude Fit, so there's no way to compensate for the loss of Fitness, and it takes a fairly long time to train it up. Otherwise, yeah, it's even easier to lose weight than to gain it.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by King Smidgens:

There's two parts to taking the trait:


-It lowers your Fitness skill's starting value

You can regain this Fitness by exercising or running. It takes a long time.


-Having the trait itself gives you a debuff to varied stats

You can get rid of this debuff by gaining weight. It's not super difficult to regain the weight at the beginning.



The combination of those two factors will give you a slightly harder start, but the points are pretty lucrative if you can make it in the long run.

If you want to take the trait I'd say take Fitness into the negatives. The bonus XP for having points doesn't currently do anything for Passives so you just start at a certain level and it doesn't take super long to get to 1. You could have a few extra points instead!

Do not get Asthmatic.

Find a playstyle that works for you. I'm finding the value in actually starting with Fitness and Strength now and making up for it with other negatives (or taking fewer positives)

I did do some adjustment taking fitness and strength to lvl 3 so i can level up faster, first tried with lvl 0 not realizing that there is a bonus to strenght and fitness lvl boost just as with any other skill. Still learning but i am getting the hang of it :-) but damn those first tries was rough, as the vikings said "a good death" not sure my character agrees though :-)