Axes durability?

[Seelander]

Anyone knows the rough number of how many kills a fireman axe and a handaxe have if maxed out axe and maintanance?

Reason i ask i came to wonder if you can go pure axe on max pop.. I think i heard numbers like 2K with a full durability axe and 500 with a hand axe.

I have 10K kills and got 7 fireman axes and 7 hand axes purely from looting zeds, so if those numbers are true (2K FA and 500 HA) that would make them almost 20K kills just on axes and even increasing my stockpile of axes, meaning i could just level up those axes for the entire game.

a side note i got the lucky trait on my guy, but even if going unlucky on trait it would be possible to go pure axe for the entire playthrough, from a math point of view.

[Shady Allie]

Originally posted by tommy_b_schmidt:

...I think i heard numbers like 2K with a full durability axe and 500 with a hand axe...

-debug mode and you can find out this info yourself for true facts.
Or you can hope someone comes here and posts numbers that are true and not just guessing.

Good luck with your number crunching!

Keep in mind your maintenance level will also affect the results.
Maintenance level 0 will yield different results from level 10 maintenance.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by Shady Allie:

Originally posted by tommy_b_schmidt:

...I think i heard numbers like 2K with a full durability axe and 500 with a hand axe...

-debug mode and you can find out this info yourself for true facts.
Or you can hope someone comes here and posts numbers that are true and not just guessing.

Good luck with your number crunching!

Keep in mind your maintenance level will also affect the results.
Maintenance level 0 will yield different results from level 10 maintenance.

Well yeah i am aware of maintenance effect, in fact its very powerfull and actually kinda easy to level up if you focus on it.
stone axes starting out have some 20-25 kills in them on average on lvl 2 axe and 2 maintenance. But once axe are max with 6-7 maintenance you got like 60 kills pr stone axe. never runs out of weapons, basically just foraging when moving towards next group to the point where you really cant use all those chipped stones :-)

[Shady Allie]

Seems like you have good handle on the worth of axes already!

[I don't believe you.]

I tried a full condition hand axe just now with 10 axe, 10 maint, and 9 str. I only got 167 kills before it broke. That's without multihit, so I dont know if thats average or if the server has a odd setting.

I do think pure axe build could be pretty strong, just pick lumberjack and strong outta the gate and just go ham.

Also, hand axe > axe

[:>)]

depends on luck, if you lucky enough (not trait) you weapon will never ever drop points of durability

[Lord Jesus III]

Slightly related to axe chars and durability: If you want them to last longer, don't chop down trees with the "Chop Down Tree" context menu option. Instead, chop them down by attacking them normally. The "Chop Down Tree" option is currently bugged and counts durability loss twice, so your axes would break twice as fast.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by I don't believe you.:

I tried a full condition hand axe just now with 10 axe, 10 maint, and 9 str. I only got 167 kills before it broke. That's without multihit, so I dont know if thats average or if the server has a odd setting.

I do think pure axe build could be pretty strong, just pick lumberjack and strong outta the gate and just go ham.

Also, hand axe > axe

Yep thats what i do. its not a big issue even if you cant depend 100% on found axes, stone axes gets the job done quite well, so can always use some of those in between stockpiling axes. havent even factored in reparing weapons once the maintenance level are there. i do like to grind up to lvl 4-5 maintenance (pushing doors) in the early days, as long as i have a safe house doing so, which i have even on max pop.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by Lord Jesus III:

Slightly related to axe chars and durability: If you want them to last longer, don't chop down trees with the "Chop Down Tree" context menu option. Instead, chop them down by attacking them normally. The "Chop Down Tree" option is currently bugged and counts durability loss twice, so your axes would break twice as fast.

Good advice didnt know that, but i could feel that they broke quite fast relative to fighting.

[Shenji]

You'll completely wear out far before your axe got rekt. That's extremely dangerous since you not only can't one kill, but also can not out run/walk who're chasing you. Even 10 fitness can't save you.

[Seelander]

Wouldnt that apply to pretty much all weapons except short blunt?

[Shenji]

Spears, long blades. They are kind of end-game weapons. Though you can find some mods to make spears easier and not immersion-breaking.

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by Shenji:

Spears, long blades. They are kind of end-game weapons. Though you can find some mods to make spears easier and not immersion-breaking.

I use this one:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2889856261

[katsuragi]

Axes are great and fire axes are sturdy indeed.
However... any weapon you can attach to a spear, you can make last forever, or at least as long as your wood glue and duct tape hold out. Mind you, I never fight with spears, but if I can find 2 or 3 machetes and I keep one spear in inventory to... umm... reset their repaired status, I can make them last forever (again... as long as the wood glue and duct tape holds out)

Edit: also... I'd like to add the Hunting Knives are incredible weapons in their own right with practice and skill. They are fast enough to interupt a zeds attack even if you are late to activate it and though they don't do great damage, again, they do it fast, hitting 4 times in the same time you could swing a fire axe twice.

[ShadowReaper]

2k kills with just one Fireman Axe sounds absurd and unrealistic, but I don't know. My current character is a Fireman, and I get maybe 10-25kills per Stone Axe (7str, 6Axes).

But what I do know is I killed slightly over 300Zeds with 1Crowbar. There's no way an axe has more durability than a Crowbar, it's made of solid steel. (At that time: 5str, 0Blunt).

[Seelander]

Originally posted by ShadowReaper:

2k kills with just one Fireman Axe sounds absurd and unrealistic, but I don't know. My current character is a Fireman, and I get maybe 10-25kills per Stone Axe (7str, 6Axes).

But what I do know is I killed slightly over 300Zeds with 1Crowbar. There's no way an axe has more durability than a Crowbar, it's made of solid steel. (At that time: 5str, 0Blunt).

Axes do not have more durability than a crowbar, but that doesnt matter if you dont run out of weapons anyway. Kills pr stone axe for me is around 60 with 10 axe, 10 phys, 6-7 maintenance.
I do grind maintenance very early game (pushing doors with an axe my hand).