Car wont start

[ld-airgrafix]

I have noticed in the latest update, cars seem to die after a day or two of use
Engine is ok and battery is ok and charged. Not sure what else to look for under the hood.
Any help is appreciated, thanks

[Ghost Runner]

What about fuel?

[ld-airgrafix]

Originally posted by Shadow Ghost:

What about fuel?

it has fuel

[ld-airgrafix]

Originally posted by Cat Supremacist SM:

The main things to look out for in cars to make sure they will work are
Engine Quality : This doesn't do much for the operation of the vehicle but it effects the chance of it to start when turning the key, the higher it is the better, this value never changes. Find it by clicking engine in mechanics menu.
Gas : Vehicles need gas to work, even if it's just a tiny bit.
Battery Charge : If a battery is under 20% you really need to charge your battery, this is dangerously low and if it gets much lower you can't start the car. To charge your car battery, idle with lights, heater, and radio off.
Tire Pressure : If you lose your tires you can't move the vehicle, keep your tires from popping on the road by filling them.
Engine/Battery Condition : I feel like this is obvious and you already know, but just in case, the higher the condition the better the vehicle will be, keep your vehicles nice. If conditions are low on either it can stall the engine and prevent it from starting.

Engine light is not on, neither is battery light. Key turns over but no sound whatsoever.
it stays in horizontal mode for couple of seconds then reverts to vertical/off position

[Armagenesis]

Originally posted by ld-airgrafix:

Originally posted by Cat Supremacist SM:

The main things to look out for in cars to make sure they will work are
Engine Quality : This doesn't do much for the operation of the vehicle but it effects the chance of it to start when turning the key, the higher it is the better, this value never changes. Find it by clicking engine in mechanics menu.
Gas : Vehicles need gas to work, even if it's just a tiny bit.
Battery Charge : If a battery is under 20% you really need to charge your battery, this is dangerously low and if it gets much lower you can't start the car. To charge your car battery, idle with lights, heater, and radio off.
Tire Pressure : If you lose your tires you can't move the vehicle, keep your tires from popping on the road by filling them.
Engine/Battery Condition : I feel like this is obvious and you already know, but just in case, the higher the condition the better the vehicle will be, keep your vehicles nice. If conditions are low on either it can stall the engine and prevent it from starting.

Engine light is not on, neither is battery light. Key turns over but no sound whatsoever.
it stays in horizontal mode for couple of seconds then reverts to vertical/off position

What you described sounds like a dead battery or empty fuel to me. If you are certain those have no issue, check your mods.

[Jarzzen]

Actually, I just ran into this as well, my truck has 99% fuel, and full battery, the entire vehicle is at 95.97% condition. Both W and N won't work; it doesn't even try to turn over. I even try the vehicle menu's start option.

[Jarzzen]

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Actually, I just ran into this as well, my truck has 99% fuel, and full battery, the entire vehicle is at 95.97% condition. Both W and N won't work; it doesn't even try to turn over. I even try the vehicle menu's start option.

Hmm, my battery condition is 100%, but the remaining charge says 8.3%. Is it that?

[Jarzzen]

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Actually, I just ran into this as well, my truck has 99% fuel, and full battery, the entire vehicle is at 95.97% condition. Both W and N won't work; it doesn't even try to turn over. I even try the vehicle menu's start option.

Hmm, my battery condition is 100%, but the remaining charge says 8.3%. Is it that?

I'll look it up. I have a car battery charger, not sure how to use it though. I took the battery out of the vehicle and placed both the charger and battery on the ground, no options to hook them up.

[`digitaL.braVo]

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Hmm, my battery condition is 100%, but the remaining charge says 8.3%. Is it that?

I'll look it up. I have a car battery charger, not sure how to use it though. I took the battery out of the vehicle and placed both the charger and battery on the ground, no options to hook them up.

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Car_Battery_Charger

[Jarzzen]

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Hmm, my battery condition is 100%, but the remaining charge says 8.3%. Is it that?

I'll look it up. I have a car battery charger, not sure how to use it though. I took the battery out of the vehicle and placed both the charger and battery on the ground, no options to hook them up.

wow, so weird how it works. you have to have the battery in your inventory, the charger placed on a powered tile, then right click the charger to see a connect battery option. Not sure how long it will actually take, but I'm guessing this is/was my problem.

[Jarzzen]

Would be nice if a lighter option, jumper cables, were added to the vanilla game.

[ld-airgrafix]

Originally posted by Cat Supremacist SM:

If you idle with your car on but all the extras off (lights, radio, heat) the battery will charge

Thank you so much for this, i didnt know this was actually a thing

[ld-airgrafix]

I have charged the battery to about 30% and that did the trick so it seems like some of you mentioned battery under certain percentage will not start the car however it wont give you an indication unlike an empty battery

[ld-airgrafix]

Originally posted by Beltneck:

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Hmm, my battery condition is 100%, but the remaining charge says 8.3%. Is it that?

Takes more like 25% charge to start a car. Your alternator recharges the battery though, so you should always leave it running for a few minutes after every start.

If you're always starting and stopping the engine, without recharging, you're going to need a battery charger or a new battery in no time.

Looks like you are spot on here, charging the battery did the trick however wish there was some indication like a car trying to start, instead of absolutely nothing

[Jarzzen]

Originally posted by ld-airgrafix:

Originally posted by Beltneck:

Takes more like 25% charge to start a car. Your alternator recharges the battery though, so you should always leave it running for a few minutes after every start.

If you're always starting and stopping the engine, without recharging, you're going to need a battery charger or a new battery in no time.

Looks like you are spot on here, charging the battery did the trick however wish there was some indication like a car trying to start, instead of absolutely nothing

I agree. Really IMO the condition should reflect the charge, as well as, damage. I get that a battery damaged from hitting multiple zombies at 120mph should lower condition, but if the condition is bad the charge should be too; hence why I don't see why the one value can't just represent both. That being said, in the current state, the battery light should reflect the charge portion, and not the condition (which it might, didn't check). Most people with an issue with a vehicle not starting would look under the hood; the only issue is you can't VISUALLY IRL tell the charge condition of your battery by looking at it. At least you can see the charge remaining value on the vehicle maintenance panel (if you aren't running in 4k like I am and the number is so small it's almost a single pixel).

[Animalman]

Originally posted by Jarzzen:

Originally posted by ld-airgrafix:

Looks like you are spot on here, charging the battery did the trick however wish there was some indication like a car trying to start, instead of absolutely nothing

I agree. Really IMO the condition should reflect the charge, as well as, damage. I get that a battery damaged from hitting multiple zombies at 120mph should lower condition, but if the condition is bad the charge should be too; hence why I don't see why the one value can't just represent both. That being said, in the current state, the battery light should reflect the charge portion, and not the condition (which it might, didn't check). Most people with an issue with a vehicle not starting would look under the hood; the only issue is you can't VISUALLY IRL tell the charge condition of your battery by looking at it. At least you can see the charge remaining value on the vehicle maintenance panel (if you aren't running in 4k like I am and the number is so small it's almost a single pixel).

Yeah you have a point.

But the battery is completely broken when that main condition is 0. Cannot be inserted to the vehicle. The charge at zero still allows insertion of the battery. If they both were the same value if the battery died it’s dead. Unless the car charger acted as a repair for the battery. But that makes a battery infinite. Which is not how batteries are. Battery can only be charged so many times before condition says it cannot be charged no more. In real life this is about 3 years. It is because it’s a chemical battery. Other type of battery including vacuum battery which is a pre 1900s British made battery last infinitely as provides enough power to start a vehicle or power tool; but does not provide enough power to provide continuous charge. It is recharged manually by pressing it down to create a suction and then harvest the vibration released when that vacuum seal is opened. This provide the spark needed for the spark plug to tick the engine into combustion and burn the fuel to in a cycle until depletion.

The above type of battery was replaced by the American made chemical battery, and the simple non battery based starter motor further buried the vacuum battery as it used a pull cord. The pull cord rotated a magnet around a coil of copper wire to provide the initial charge for ignition. This requires quite abit of force and resistance to provide equal charge to a vacuum battery but the science is more widely taught as it relates more to the general mechanics of an engine. So as a result it is the popular method in modern era.