how to eat unknown mushrooms?

[Kust5]

Hi! Have a nice day :з . I have such a question, how can I carefully consume unknown berries without reading the herbalist's magazine? Today I died 2 times from this and I am very sorry. It seems I used to adhere to the rule that you can't eat more than 3 berries a day and there will be no poisoning, but today it didn't work? Maybe I do not know how it really works. Who knows how this mechanics works, please tell me, I will be glad to see you here.

[Kust5]

Originally posted by Cat Supremacist SM:

eat one then scarf down as much lemongrass as you can and you might have a chance, otherwise read the magazine you mentioned or take the herbalist trait

I didn't understand you at all, what's the chance, what are you talking about? I ate only 2 pieces and from the second time I had an illness and then it grew to a fever

[Quill]

Originally posted by Kust5:

Originally posted by Cat Supremacist SM:

eat one then scarf down as much lemongrass as you can and you might have a chance, otherwise read the magazine you mentioned or take the herbalist trait

I didn't understand you at all, what's the chance, what are you talking about? I ate only 2 pieces and from the second time I had an illness and then it grew to a fever

It's because the random sprite are not random

Those are specific Mushrooms

They also changed food poisoning so it'll just straight up kill you

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Kust5:

Hi! Have a nice day :з . I have such a question, how can I carefully consume unknown berries without reading the herbalist's magazine? Today I died 2 times from this and I am very sorry. It seems I used to adhere to the rule that you can't eat more than 3 berries a day and there will be no poisoning, but today it didn't work? Maybe I do not know how it really works. Who knows how this mechanics works, please tell me, I will be glad to see you here.

Berries?

Ok. so...

When testing with debug-mode-spawned berries, and weak stomach, there was a chance to do an "instant" 25, 50, or 75% food poisoning status on consuming a full berry, PLUS about 12-16% additional food poisoning over time. Hit 100%, your dead.

You cannot see this meter directly without debug mode.

As such, only ONE berry is actually "safe" (at least with weak stomach), and ONLY if your stomach is COMPLETELY clear of gunk, which can easily take 12 hours to a day depending on how bad the case is (I don't remember the exact timing); you are NOT clear immediately after the queasy moodle disapears. You can be a bit safer and eat only 1/2 of a berry at a time, and only take 12.5, 25, or 37.5% instant food poison damage, plus a bit extra.

Poison mushrooms might be different. Some poison berries might only do food-poison-over-time, it's hard to be completely sure due to the limitations of spawning berries in.

Burnt, rotten, and dangerous uncooked foods only do food-poison-over-time; this means you will NEVER see the queasy/nauseous moodle immediately after consuming them. The amount is proportional to the amount of hunger satisfied, making rotten icecream one of the only rotten foods worth consuming unless you're reallllly desperate to stretch out your food supply. IIRC you can eat around 10 burnt food at a time safely, and then you have to wait for your stomach to clear.

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Quill:

Originally posted by Kust5:

I didn't understand you at all, what's the chance, what are you talking about? I ate only 2 pieces and from the second time I had an illness and then it grew to a fever

It's because the random sprite are not random

Those are specific Mushrooms

They also changed food poisoning so it'll just straight up kill you

I believe there was a BUG a few updates ago where even a little bit of burnt food WOULD just straight up kill you. now you can eat SOME amount of burnt food and live, and like i said, ONE poison berry, but you have to be very careful, it's something like 20 or so burnt food that (potentially) kills you with weak stomach, or 15 ish if there's gunk still hiding in your system (moodles gone but you still have some food poisoning)

[Kust5]

Originally posted by fractalgem:

Originally posted by Quill:

It's because the random sprite are not random

Those are specific Mushrooms

They also changed food poisoning so it'll just straight up kill you

I believe there was a BUG a few updates ago where even a little bit of burnt food WOULD just straight up kill you. now you can eat SOME amount of burnt food and live, and like i said, ONE poison berry, but you have to be very careful, it's something like 20 or so burnt food that (potentially) kills you with weak stomach, or 15 ish if there's gunk still hiding in your system (moodles gone but you still have some food poisoning)

Thank you very much! I hope in the next playthrough I won't die from one berry a day :) . And I always ate spoiled food for 15 units of hunger at most, I tried not to eat more so as not to take risks. It's pretty easy to survive in a zombie eating spoiled food in moderation, you can stretch out months to grow healthy food, for example, or stock up on canned food. Have a good day, friend

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Kust5:

Originally posted by fractalgem:

I believe there was a BUG a few updates ago where even a little bit of burnt food WOULD just straight up kill you. now you can eat SOME amount of burnt food and live, and like i said, ONE poison berry, but you have to be very careful, it's something like 20 or so burnt food that (potentially) kills you with weak stomach, or 15 ish if there's gunk still hiding in your system (moodles gone but you still have some food poisoning)

Thank you very much! I hope in the next playthrough I won't die from one berry a day :) . And I always ate spoiled food for 15 units of hunger at most, I tried not to eat more so as not to take risks. It's pretty easy to survive in a zombie eating spoiled food in moderation, you can stretch out months to grow healthy food, for example, or stock up on canned food. Have a good day, friend

Glad I could explain it properly to you! Even people trying to test and explain how food poisoning actually works on youtube often did a terrible job of it, or else were on a much older build. Bit tempted to try and record my own video for it, but it DOES seem like a lot of work.

[Chilli Dog Dave]

so many people dont understand berries...
berries are assigned a posionous state on world creation some berry sprites could be safe one world but toxic in another.
one or 2 berries wont usually kill you unless weak stomach or prone to illness otherwise eat a bunch of lemon grass after testing

[Kust5]

Originally posted by Chilli Dog Dave:

so many people dont understand berries...
berries are assigned a posionous state on world creation some berry sprites could be safe one world but toxic in another.
one or 2 berries wont usually kill you unless weak stomach or prone to illness otherwise eat a bunch of lemon grass after testing

Dude, you're just a god. I seem to have guessed this before, but now I have seen the light, now I will test your theory in order to make sure that there are species in the world that are poisonous and not, it used to seem to me that the berries that the character finds are absolutely randomly poisonous, and not from the species that he appropriated in the new world. It's ironic enough that I found out about it after 1600 hours of playing, you can see for yourself if you log into my account)

[dustbiter]

I think they adjusted poison strength back then, probably turned it up IIRC. Just don't eat unknown berries, they hardly help with hunger/nutrition. I think the same berry sprite may be used for both poison and non-poison versions.

[Kust5]

Originally posted by dustbiter:

I think they adjusted poison strength back then, probably turned it up IIRC. Just don't eat unknown berries, they hardly help with hunger/nutrition. I think the same berry sprite may be used for both poison and non-poison versions.

I checked through debugging mode and found out that after you ate a poisonous berry, you need to take lemon grass immediately, once and then the disease will regress, otherwise if you don't do it quickly, the disease will not stop

[Grishnerf]

rightclick -> eat :D

[Kust5]

Originally posted by Grishnerf:

rightclick -> eat :D

Thank you, genius

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by dustbiter:

I think they adjusted poison strength back then, probably turned it up IIRC. Just don't eat unknown berries, they hardly help with hunger/nutrition. I think the same berry sprite may be used for both poison and non-poison versions.

Ah. yeah. seperate issue, that, sorry if i wasn't clear before, since not all berries are poisonus. but certainly eating three unknown berries in one go is currently....an extreme risk, to say the least.

From what I can tell:
Foraged holly berries are always poisonous, while other named berries are always edible (e.g. winterberries); but spawned in holly berries are on a seperate system for some reason. presumably, this also means that using debug mode will NOT let you identify which no-name berries are poisonous unless you actually eat them or give yourself the herbalist trait. Similarly, if you are using the vegetation-everyhwere mod, removing vegetation will give you VERY randomized berries and you DO need the herbalist trait to safely consume its mushrooms and berries in bulk, as it WILL make poison and non-poison berries with the same sprite.

The non-named berries and mushrooms will have a number of them selected to be poisonous. (iirc, 2 of them in all?) you can, through careful experimentation, figure out which ones are poisonous and which ones are not, in a specific playthrough/world.

[friendly neighborhood gigachad]

just read the herbalist magazine then it says if they are good to eat or if they are going to kill you

[Kust5]

Originally posted by kaydrayem:

just read the herbalist magazine then it says if they are good to eat or if they are going to kill you

magazine for noobs dude, now I'm a herbalist in real life because I realized how the mechanics work completely