Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

Foxy Tony Jan 21, 2020 @ 1:36pm
Amputations
Once they're in the game,how will it play out? If you need to amputate your leg,how will your movement be based around? Or will amputations only be a thing for the arms?
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Amputations? Wut
Sytrix Jan 21, 2020 @ 3:16pm 
well its probably going to be a major speed debuff and you wont move rly easily and wont be abble to sprint or climb anything....its probably a death sentence anyway if you cut your leg lol.....theres no real way to make it fair.
Foxy Tony Jan 21, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Sytrix:
well its probably going to be a major speed debuff and you wont move rly easily and wont be abble to sprint or climb anything....its probably a death sentence anyway if you cut your leg lol.....theres no real way to make it fair.

It'll be pretty interesting once the feature is in the game. The only issue I see with it are mainly with the legs,especially if you're playing by yourself in a single player game. Your mobility would be severely impaired compared to the zombies. Even the crawlers stand more of a chance since you pretty much lose your ability to stomp on them.

I'm really curious if they're going to add the option of wheelchairs in to the game,being handicapped and still surviving the apocalypse seems pretty neat.
Devs haven't talked about amputations, link or it didn't happen
Foxy Tony Jan 21, 2020 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by Lord of Nutmeg:
Devs haven't talked about amputations, link or it didn't happen


It's listed under Game Mechanics

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Planned_Features
Brother Frederick Jan 21, 2020 @ 4:46pm 
Only issue with me is that this should not be possible in SP unless done by Doctor NPC.
In MP Doctor player or NPC.

Why ? Because it's not like dealing with a splinter. Without proper knowledge and preparations lost limb = death in a matter of just a few minutes.

Personally I think that lvl 4 of First Aid should be required as a bare minimum - why ? Because Pistols to be used also need lvl 4 as a minimum and shooting a gun is thousand times easier than dealing with severe bleeding, pain and shock from cutting a limb.
Last edited by Brother Frederick; Jan 21, 2020 @ 4:49pm
Axz (Banned) Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:07pm 
That... could be interesting. Don't get me wrong, it sounds awesome-sauce, but that has more issues than Razzle.

If you lost a leg, would you even be able to move without crutches or a wheelchair? With crutches you couldn't equip a weapon -let alone use it- and in a wheelchair your mobility would be next to nothing, you would take ages just moving around an empty house, never mind being chased by zombies or fighting.

If you lost an arm it wouldn't be as bad as losing a leg, but certain weapons would be out of the question and everything would take MUCH longer. How the hell would you build with one arm? Who's holding the nail while you hammer it or the log as you saw it?

There's lots that it could add to the game like prosthetics and the medical procedure you'd need to go through just to do it, but it strikes me as something that's basically death. If I lost a limb I would probably just die and start again, it depends how it's handled I suppose.
Last edited by Axz; Jan 21, 2020 @ 7:08pm
Vaileasys Jan 21, 2020 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by Yevgeny Borisovitch Volgin:
Originally posted by Lord of Nutmeg:
Devs haven't talked about amputations, link or it didn't happen


It's listed under Game Mechanics

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Planned_Features
There's no current plan to add amputations. If it does happen, it wouldn't be until the game leaves early access. Also, keep in mind many of those features listed there were mentioned as early as 2011. And as you may know, the game has changed a massive amount since then.
Yeah this is a stupid idea, it's fine for a drama like walking dead, but as gameplay I'd rather just make a new character at that point lol
crossed Jan 22, 2020 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by Lord of Nutmeg:
Devs haven't talked about amputations, link or it didn't happen
https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/1696095174288571711/#c1696095174291305678
DoomSlayer Jan 22, 2020 @ 5:40am 
Think about the walking dead and all the other shows. Zomboid misses out on numerous things when it comes to being infected. In TWD, you'd have a very high-fever, limited energy, very hot body temp, etc.

You won't be chopping down trees, moving around a lot. You'd most likely be bed ridden, in pain with no energy to do anything. Prime example is 'Jim' in season 1 of TWD when he got bitten during the camp attack.

You'd be able to stop the infection if you cut off the limb (if you got bit on your hand, arm or leg) within a hour, if you're lucky and have the supplies/guts to do so.

^^You would most likely pass out due to blood loss and severe pain. I've been awake without painkillers through surgery once after I broke my arm IRL.

Sure the option is there. Are you will to risk a possible quicker death when amputating yourself than just letting the infection go through your body?

I'd be all in for the amputation, it would make me feel better when I get bit in game - having that last ditch effort that could go wrong or may go right. But then I'd have to live with the draw backs of being paralyzed in the apocalypse if it does work.

Just means it would be much, much harder to survive if you're on your own.

If it gets added, at a later date, it better be balanced correctly. I'd hate to see people immediately resulting to cutting off their arm or something, if they get bitten there - without thinking of the consequences.
Last edited by DoomSlayer; Jan 22, 2020 @ 5:41am
Herr Morlock Jan 22, 2020 @ 6:00am 
The game would really benefit from the possiblities of amputations.

Especially when it goes about arms and hands. Amputed arms/hands should give you slower inventory transfer times, would make it impossible for you to wield two handed weapons (at least not with both hands).

Amputed legs or feet should give you a severe moving disadvantage (comparable with broken legs) which could be improved by either using crafted prosthetic legs (you would need - let's say - carpentry 4 and medicine 2 for crafting those) or using two crooks (which would fill both your hands when you are moving and one hand when you are standing).

The amputation itself would be, of course, only possible on legs, feet, arms and hands. So it would be no option when getting bitten in the head or on the torso. The amputation should be used quite soon, so the infection has no time to pass through the body. I guess you would need to make it within 2-3 minutes after getting bitten. Possibly linked to infection chance. Within the first minute possibly 100% cure chance if infected, after the first minute only 80% chance, after the second minute 60%, and so on...
Also, you would need proper tools to do the amputation. I guess you would need a saw or an axe for legs and arms but possibly a kitchen knife for hands or feet.
Additionally you would need a fair doctor skill (I guess 3-4) and some line ropes to prevent bleeding out. Maybe linked to the doctor skill as well (but never below 10% surviving chance).

PS: Main problem will be the animations, I guess. Possibly the arm amputations could be done relatively easy by "visually deleting" that part of the modell, but the leg amputation and the crooks would need completely new animations...
Last edited by Herr Morlock; Jan 22, 2020 @ 6:03am
The Gat Jan 22, 2020 @ 8:45am 
Amputation for players/humans seems to be complicated to balance after reading some comments, but for zeds? That's something I'd like to see
Foxy Tony Jan 22, 2020 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by Vaileasys:
Originally posted by Yevgeny Borisovitch Volgin:


It's listed under Game Mechanics

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Planned_Features
There's no current plan to add amputations. If it does happen, it wouldn't be until the game leaves early access. Also, keep in mind many of those features listed there were mentioned as early as 2011. And as you may know, the game has changed a massive amount since then.

Yeah,but it's still an interesting thing to look in to and how it would work at all. Considering you would be removing a part of your character's body. I think it's neat that it's still planned to be added in at some point.

Main issues I see with it is with the animations and how you'd make it even possible to survive after amputating a limb. Cause,there would be serious amounts of pain and blood loss.



Originally posted by Fred:
Only issue with me is that this should not be possible in SP unless done by Doctor NPC.
In MP Doctor player or NPC.

Why ? Because it's not like dealing with a splinter. Without proper knowledge and preparations lost limb = death in a matter of just a few minutes.

Personally I think that lvl 4 of First Aid should be required as a bare minimum - why ? Because Pistols to be used also need lvl 4 as a minimum and shooting a gun is thousand times easier than dealing with severe bleeding, pain and shock from cutting a limb.

Well you can co-op in single player as well,you just need a character with a good first aid skill to manage to keep you alive. Plus having the doctor trait would severely help with that since they'd have past training for situations like this. Though I believe the process would attract zombies as well,cause the person being worked on would not be able to remain silent as a mouse for sure.
Herr Morlock Jan 22, 2020 @ 10:22am 
Yes, you are right about needing another player for amputating bigger parts of the body.

I guess, it would be possible to chop off a hand or even a foot by yourself. But I doubt it would work with something bigger like an arm or a leg. Because you would need a saw, I guess, for such things and I doubt this is doable unless you are drunken as hell and/or drugged heavily. Mainly because of the pain and the time neccessary to do that. I guess you would pass out before you were able to finish the job...
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