Evolving zombies?

[seregorn]

Hi, I'm new here, and I like to share my impression of what this great game is missing: a compelling way to have progression of difficulty. Maybe I miss something (and I apologize if someone has already fixed it in a mod), but I can't find a configuration for incremental zombie chars. In sandbox you can choose speed and skills of zombies, but there is no option to put them as growth, while it would be great (and realistic) to have slow and stupid zombies at the start of the game, and more and more skilled while time goes by. Feel free to insult me if this is the 100th time you heard about it and it's already fixed (or not, but still obsolete). Thank you and have a nice gory day.

[Armagenesis]

If I recall the devs didn't put such feature because it doesn't fit the proper zombie lore. So no evolutions or special infected and whatnot without mods.

[seregorn]

Thank you for the answer, I can accept the reasoning for special infected, but I can't see how it could be bad about what zombies can already do in the game. What kind of "zombie lore" would be ruined in a sandbox game without any kind of definite lore, where you can change every stat at your will? I see more realism with a time-related evolution, rather than the "random" zombie mode.

[snazzums]

download the ccda zombies mod <3

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by seregorn:

Thank you for the answer, I can accept the reasoning for special infected, but I can't see how it could be bad about what zombies can already do in the game. What kind of "zombie lore" would be ruined in a sandbox game without any kind of definite lore, where you can change every stat at your will? I see more realism with a time-related evolution, rather than the "random" zombie mode.

just get a mod. the only reason mods exist is that the devs want a game their way and people might want it slightly diffrent. so thats where you get the mods into play

[seregorn]

Thank you, you mean CDDA zombies mod? I can't find a ccda mod. If it's like CDDA zombies, with new kinds of zombies for more variety, doesn't work the way I was looking for. My request is about progression of difficulty, to match your progression in the game.

[=JpS=Red5]

Originally posted by seregorn:

...but I can't see how it could be bad about what zombies can already do in the game. What kind of "zombie lore" would be ruined in a sandbox game without any kind of definite lore, where you can change every stat at your will?

They have a vision of what they want their game to be, but they listen to their customers too. They just happen to say 'No' to things that don't fit their vision.

I have seen a number of early access games go to sh*t when devs tried too hard to pander to the masses. Good on them for drawing a line and not giving ground. The game is already REALLY good. When it is done, I think it will be even better...even without evolving zombies... :)

[seregorn]

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just get a mod. the only reason mods exist is that the devs want a game their way and people might want it slightly diffrent. so thats where you get the mods into play [/quote]

Thank you, I understand but I looked in mod list and couldn't find any working like this. Obvyously I didn't look every mod in the workshop. Maybe there's the right one hidden in the middle. But I'd like to know at least if it exists.

[seregorn]

Originally posted by =JpS=Red5:

]They have a vision of what they want their game to be, but they listen to their customers too. They just happen to say 'No' to things that don't fit their vision.

I totally agree they already done a great work, and in no way I want to diminish their effort. This game is great and I don't ask for any structural change, only an option more to choose in sandbox mode. It seems a good idea to me, but no tragedy if has no support at all. I will play anyway with pleasure :) Thank you anyway.

[Pantstron]

Wouldn't it make more sense that the zombies degrade more and more over time so they'll all just be lying on the ground rotting, and and in winter they all seize up and don't move around much

[seregorn]

Originally posted by Fzanco:

Wouldn't it make more sense that the zombies degrade more and more over time so they'll all just be lying on the ground rotting, and and in winter they all seize up and don't move around much

That in the "rotten flesh corpse" zombie tradition. And in that scenario there would be no sense in respawn.
But in the "I Am legend" version of zombies, and in "Land of the Dead" movie, you have some zombies gaining some kind of self-consciousness, and I find this an interesting and proper change. Cause, like you just observed, if we would use rotting corpses as a model, they would have stopped to walk around after few days. I mean, Romero created the lore, and Romero changed it too, so I don't see why we should have problems about it.

[Shady Allie]

Here is an old thread (but pinned) a "bit" out of date, but look here for some developer Yes we want and NO we won't do it stuff. It lives in the SUGGESTION tab over there, a sub forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/2/648813728397255464/

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I will point out that where the game stands now, some of the ideas originally that were stern NO, are now in the game: Minimap.

Devs in '13 - no mini map from us.
Devs in '22- we have added mini map and entire world map system.

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The game has evolved, but I am sure a lot of the yes and no items on that list hold true today.

[seregorn]

Originally posted by Shady Allie:

Here is an old thread (but pinned) a "bit" out of date, but look here for some developer Yes we want and NO we won't do it stuff. It lives in the SUGGESTION tab over there, a sub forum. [...]
The game has evolved, but I am sure a lot of the yes and no items on that list hold true today.

Thank you, I see no opposition in that list for what I asked for. By the way, I would agree minimap is a bad idea for realism in this game and I will never use.
I really think that would be a good thing to have a setting for an incremental speed and memory of zombies. Anyway, we will see. I understand devs have more important issues to work on. Maybe some modder would take the suggest ;)

[EyWind]

hey, there is one mod that called Evolution Mod, that probably do things(atleast partially) that you want. Also from comments it seamts it does work, but i advise you to test it first

and second mod you also may like, make game a bit more spicy

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2729417044&searchtext=zombie+evolution

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2829744786

[seregorn]

Thank you EyWind, this seems to be what I was looking for, hope it works properly! Have a good play everyone!

[Smoker]

I'd love something like in please don't feed the zombies if there is enough corpses some <5% zombies would run to eat them