Are poison berries/shrooms fatal?

[Itharus]

Title. I died to poison berries once, but I don't know if it was just my bad luck or if they always kill you.

[Crash Test]

ofc, they are fatal but u need to wait some time after consumption to see final result. and if u have eaten lesser than -4 berries u can still prevent death eating some wild grass (iirc it was lemon grass), if more - main menu.

[Itharus]

4 berries is the lethal dose, then? So you can eat less and just be sick?

[Crash Test]

im not sure will u die or not from 1 only berry, but will sick surely. the lemon grass can save u at least from 3 berries, by my own experience (if it wasnt reworked in last versions), however u can test it for uself.

[martindirt]

Just get and read The Herbalist mag, don't eat any berries or shrooms before that. Early game you should find enough food to don't need foraged foods. If you aim for forest life, fishing / trapping are a good and reliable food sources till you find that magazine. Or choose trait Herbalist, but that's a waste of points imo.

[Shenji]

Blue and purple berries are most safe, just saying.
And I never found any blue berry toxic in game, but not 100% sure.

[Crash Test]

Originally posted by Shenji:

Blue and purple berries are most safe, just saying.
And I never found any blue berry toxic in game, but not 100% sure.

it doesnt depend from color, i found poisoning berries of ALL colors and cannot say that some of them were lesser or more safe, its fully random. anyway, eating these berries without herbalist (perk or magazine) its death casino.

[Ryukan]

The game rolls a chance of the berry/mushroom being poisonous based on your foraging lvl, if it is poisonous then it rolls for the ''strenght'' of the poison. So its hard to say how many you can eat even if you know its poisonous via herbalist trait/mag or cooking lvl 7, you ll only die if your ''sickness lvl'' goes up enough in a short amount of time. I dont think i have ever died by eating a single poisonous berry, but i ve already died by eating a single poisonous shroom, if you have to eat them, just do it like rotten food but less, eat 1/4 of shrooms or 1/2 of berries every couple few of ingame hours (thats assuming the max poison roll is 4x to be safe, i dont know the max possible roll). Btw, lemon grass only work once every few hours, it does not stack, all it does is remove 20% of your current sickness lvl, so its better to save it to eat when the food sickness is at the worse.

[Itharus]

Dang, there's poison strength levels, too?

[hardy_conrad]

I think I died from a berry once, but I may have eaten several. Foraging is fun but like others have said unless you're benefiting from herbalism it's a gamble.

[Ryukan]

Originally posted by Itharus:

Dang, there's poison strength levels, too?

Yup, if you are curious:

Game files:

Poison Chance:

if ZombRand(100) < _itemDef.poisonChance + ((10 - perkLevel) * 3) then
for item in iterList(_items) do
item:setPoisonPower(ZombRand(_itemDef.poisonPowerMin, _itemDef.poisonPowerMax) + 1);
item:setPoisonDetectionLevel(_itemDef.poisonDetectionLevel or 0);
item:setUseForPoison(item:getHungChange());

Berries:


poisonChance = 5,
poisonPowerMin = 1,
poisonPowerMax = 10,
poisonDetectionLevel = 5,

Mushrooms:
poisonChance = 10,
poisonPowerMin = 5,
poisonPowerMax = 50,
poisonDetectionLevel = 5,

So, at lvl 0 foraging you have 35% chance for poison Berries and 40% for mushrooms, then for each foraging lvl you get -3%. Mushrooms are potentially 0.5x to 50x more poisonous than berries. I dont know how exactly poisonPower translate into sickness level in game, i never tested that. And looks like you can detect if its poison or not at lvl5 foraging? Maybe, it might be a different sort of ''level''. You might not want to touch poison shrooms at all, im thinking that if you get a max roll on poison its death for sure.

[hardy_conrad]

I would be nice if mushrooms at least also had a chance for effects other than poison, heh.