Crafting needs some solid rework

[Aklys]

Things like a sturdy stick only being craftable via using a saw isn't quite right when it comes to survival and starting a fire. Maybe utilising things like a saw can speed up the process of their creation but you should be able to create them from a tree branch or something with any sharp even a chipped stone.

[FragLeg]

What for? I mean, in the end it comes down to having the right tool and the right material. If you don't have a chipped stone, you still can't craft the sturdy stick. If you want that two tools can craft something, isn't it the same as doubling the drop rate of the first tool?

[Chilli Dog Dave]

easy solution without breaking the balance would be to let us snap a branch into sturdy twigs and use that as a makeshift sturdy stick.

[Aklys]

Originally posted by FragLeg:

Actually it isn't because different areas have different spawn materials. If I'm in the forest I can't make a sturdy stick to start a fire from nature itself. Having things crafted in multiple ways doesn't mean it will always be a direct affect on drop rates.

It also gives more to the immersive aspects of a game that gives multiple methods to achieve the same results, while creating more agency for the player.

[Aklys]

Originally posted by Chilli Dog Dave:

yeah that's not too bad an idea. Making it have less durabiility but still able to achieve the result.

[Adamos]

Originally posted by Aklys:

Things like a sturdy stick only being craftable via using a saw isn't quite right when it comes to survival and starting a fire. Maybe utilising things like a saw can speed up the process of their creation but you should be able to create them from a tree branch or something with any sharp even a chipped stone.

I agree so much, that I just made my first PZ mod for that - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2728165074

[Adamos]

I just realized in current build 41.65 you can lit up the fire with notched plank + tree branch. I just blindly followed the wiki and only when my sturdy stick broke during attempt to lit a fire I was still able to lit it - with tree branch instead. Neat. Updating the wiki now.