[Question] Apocalypse respawn

[justcaas]

As you know, zombie respawns over time. But what about the resourses? For example i used 250 shotgun shells and killed somhere around 900-950 zeds. They will respawn for sure as time pass. And the wasted shells? Does it too? If not, then its too bad. I think its kinda unfair. Wdyt? Tell me.

[justcaas]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

On apocalypse loot does not respawn. You can activate loot respawn playing sandbox mode.

I do not think the default is unfair. You can get yourself set up pretty well with what's available and easily get to self sustainability. But also, keep in mind what the game says every time you start a new game.

"This is how you died."

It's meant to be realistic, not fair.

Sure its meant to be like that, but when you get bit in ur back from distance like 1 meter when jumping out of the window it isnt realistic at all. Btw i hate this phrase popping up everytime i load the savegame. Im very accurate, very pedantic and when something goes wrong and not "That realistic" im getting angry. Like bro wtf how did they spotted me in a group of five when i didnt even poke out of the house? This is AI sending those monkeys to ur location, thats not realistic at all - like im not making any sound always crouching and closing the curtains - but yet they somehow manage to know my position, nearly got me. But thats not the case im angry about. Im angry about getting a bit during animation of jumping out of the window and between me and the zed was literally 1 tile - so how did that happen. Thats why zed respawn is not fair. Imagine getting the ammo from all of the police stations and stores - it will end sometimes, but zeds will respawn. Think about it. Im not against respawning zombies but there is gotta be a way to create more ammo without hydrocraft or any other mods - if zomboid pretending to be realistic of course. And i know what youre gonne be explaining zeds respawn with. I thought bout that too - Wandering groups. But anyways, yeah there is plenty of ammo, but its not infinite and one day it will end (If you are good enough to survive that long) But zeds will keep respawnin. Sry for that big bunch o text.

[justcaas]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

Originally posted by 류:

Sure its meant to be like that, but when you get bit in ur back from distance like 1 meter when jumping out of the window it isnt realistic at all. Btw i hate this phrase popping up everytime i load the savegame. Im very accurate, very pedantic and when something goes wrong and not "That realistic" im getting angry. Like bro wtf how did they spotted me in a group of five when i didnt even poke out of the house? This is AI sending those monkeys to ur location, thats not realistic at all - like im not making any sound always crouching and closing the curtains - but yet they somehow manage to know my position, nearly got me. But thats not the case im angry about. Im angry about getting a bit during animation of jumping out of the window and between me and the zed was literally 1 tile - so how did that happen. Thats why zed respawn is not fair. Imagine getting the ammo from all of the police stations and stores - it will end sometimes, but zeds will respawn. Think about it. Im not against respawning zombies but there is gotta be a way to create more ammo without hydrocraft or any other mods - if zomboid pretending to be realistic of course. And i know what youre gonne be explaining zeds respawn with. I thought bout that too - Wandering groups. But anyways, yeah there is plenty of ammo, but its not infinite and one day it will end (If you are good enough to survive that long) But zeds will keep respawnin. Sry for that big bunch o text.

The window thing. Ya, game is still in development. There's bugs. Its what you sign up for when you buy it. I had a duplicate bag get stuck in my car blocking the only other way out and got killed when the door I could use got surrounded by zombies. ♥♥♥♥ happens.

That being said, if there's anything intentional you don't like about the game, sandbox is there for a reason. Like I said, you can turn on loot respawn. Do it if you want it.

Dont need the loot respawn actually. Wrong caption created. Should have said "Ammo". So what im up to is recreating of ammunition for guns - like shells n stuff. Would be good if devs added that. I seen that in hydrocraft mod - but i dont like hydrocraft it self, too much stuff for me, maybe later will come to that again. But main idea is to give players the ability to create their own ammo for already owned guns. Thats it. I like the mechanic of killing zeds with shotguns from a car and with just a shotgun. Thats funny, but fun ends when you got no ammo xD So, ty for listening me, peace!

[katsuragi]

use hydrocraft and select loot respawn in sandbox mode. There I've solved all your issues.

Oh and the window thing is because windows are transparent, thus you can be seen through one...

[RoosterBoy]

Originally posted by katsuragi:

use hydrocraft and select loot respawn in sandbox mode. There I've solved all your issues.

Oh and the window thing is because windows are transparent, thus you can be seen through one...

Also if your lights are on zeds can see your shadow through the curtains.

[DivineEvil]

Originally posted by 류:

Sure its meant to be like that, but when you get bit in ur back from distance like 1 meter when jumping out of the window it isnt realistic at all. Btw i hate this phrase popping up everytime i load the savegame. Im very accurate, very pedantic and when something goes wrong and not "That realistic" im getting angry.

Well that because your position is not changed until you have actually landed on the other side. Any action other than just running with a zed 1 meter behind tend to be very risky and unjustified.

Originally posted by 류:

Like bro wtf how did they spotted me in a group of five when i didnt even poke out of the house? This is AI sending those monkeys to ur location, thats not realistic at all - like im not making any sound always crouching and closing the curtains - but yet they somehow manage to know my position, nearly got me.

Crouching doesn't make you completely silent. Even with maximum crouching/stealth skill theres a tinly probability that you will be heard. Also, closing the curtains prevents zombies them from seeing you, but it doesn't prevent them from seeing the lights, which they seem to be attracted to from short distance, such as when your external lamps are on. Zombies are also attracted to dead bodies, and you might had some near your house. There's plenty of things to consider, but one way or another, you're never completely safe with zeds roaming about.

Originally posted by 류:

But thats not the case im angry about. Im angry about getting a bit during animation of jumping out of the window and between me and the zed was literally 1 tile - so how did that happen. Thats why zed respawn is not fair.

I don't think these two cases has anything to do with one another.

Originally posted by 류:

Imagine getting the ammo from all of the police stations and stores - it will end sometimes, but zeds will respawn. Think about it. Im not against respawning zombies but there is gotta be a way to create more ammo without hydrocraft or any other mods - if zomboid pretending to be realistic of course. And i know what youre gonne be explaining zeds respawn with. I thought bout that too - Wandering groups. But anyways, yeah there is plenty of ammo, but its not infinite and one day it will end (If you are good enough to survive that long) But zeds will keep respawnin. Sry for that big bunch o text.

I fail to see how that is a problem still. Firearms are generrally not a very good weapon against zeds. I believe it is primarily useful for PvP and for upcoming big game hunting. Ammo is running out isn't that much of a problem because firearms are only useful for few specific cases.

Otherwise, the custom sandbox can both support item respawning and zeds not respawning, so change whichever you see as a bigger problem. Playing custom sandbox does not infrnige on any features such as achievements like it often is the case in other games. There's little point in getting angry over what you always had the control over to begin with.

[Jiet]

Originally posted by RoosterBoy:

Originally posted by katsuragi:

use hydrocraft and select loot respawn in sandbox mode. There I've solved all your issues.

Oh and the window thing is because windows are transparent, thus you can be seen through one...

Also if your lights are on zeds can see your shadow through the curtains.

I don't think this is true.

[Death]

Originally posted by Jiet:

Originally posted by RoosterBoy:

Also if your lights are on zeds can see your shadow through the curtains.

I don't think this is true.

It's not. As long as you have sheets/curtains on the windows it blocks the line of sight.

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

Also, closing the curtains prevents zombies them from seeing you, but it doesn't prevent them from seeing the lights, which they seem to be attracted to from short distance, such as when your external lamps are on. Zombies are also attracted to dead bodies, .

This isn't true either. Sheets block light and zombies aren't attracted to dead bodies at all. I do believe that they can be attracted by outer lights though,

[Jiet]

After messing around in the debug mode, it looks like at night zombies are attracted to lights being turned on. And when I say "lights being turned on," I mean you can be in a windowless bathroom with the door closed, and if you turn the lights on then zombies in the immediate area will react despite not being in LOS.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Jiet:

After messing around in the debug mode, it looks like at night zombies are attracted to lights being turned on. And when I say "lights being turned on," I mean you can be in a windowless bathroom with the door closed, and if you turn the lights on then zombies in the immediate area will react despite not being in LOS.

Remember that "CLICK" sound you hear when you turn on the lights? that is it.:P

[justcaas]

Originally posted by RoosterBoy:

Originally posted by katsuragi:

use hydrocraft and select loot respawn in sandbox mode. There I've solved all your issues.

Oh and the window thing is because windows are transparent, thus you can be seen through one...

Also if your lights are on zeds can see your shadow through the curtains.

wow, havent thought bout that tusen takk

[justcaas]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Originally posted by Jiet:

After messing around in the debug mode, it looks like at night zombies are attracted to lights being turned on. And when I say "lights being turned on," I mean you can be in a windowless bathroom with the door closed, and if you turn the lights on then zombies in the immediate area will react despite not being in LOS.

Remember that "CLICK" sound you hear when you turn on the lights? that is it.:P

this sound btw do attract zeds attention, so does the clearing of the broken window glass

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by Death:

Originally posted by Jiet:

I don't think this is true.

It's not. As long as you have sheets/curtains on the windows it blocks the line of sight.

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

Also, closing the curtains prevents zombies them from seeing you, but it doesn't prevent them from seeing the lights, which they seem to be attracted to from short distance, such as when your external lamps are on. Zombies are also attracted to dead bodies, .

This isn't true either. Sheets block light and zombies aren't attracted to dead bodies at all. I do believe that they can be attracted by outer lights though,

Indeed so be careful where you place your generator, beside its sound, it is a bit troublesome when the only illuminated lamp post is right beside, before, behind, next to your base:)

Also...SNEAK even in your base. It is hillarious how sometimes they hear you from outdoors.

[justcaas]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Originally posted by Death:

It's not. As long as you have sheets/curtains on the windows it blocks the line of sight.


This isn't true either. Sheets block light and zombies aren't attracted to dead bodies at all. I do believe that they can be attracted by outer lights though,

Indeed so be careful where you place your generator, beside its sound, it is a bit troublesome when the only illuminated lamp post is right beside, before, behind, next to your base:)

Also...SNEAK even in your base. It is hillarious how sometimes they hear you from outdoors.

Yeah, do it, should help a little, but remember the thing that the AI will try to send those pesky rotten buddies to your location, even if you was fully secure from ur own noises.

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by 류:

As you know, zombie respawns over time. But what about the resourses? For example i used 250 shotgun shells and killed somhere around 900-950 zeds. They will respawn for sure as time pass. And the wasted shells? Does it too? If not, then its too bad. I think its kinda unfair. Wdyt? Tell me. :hatchetTLD:

Zeds can drop shotgun ammo/shotguns axes,pistols and numerous other rare drops, so no, it is not unfair.

You can dismantle literally anything for resources.

You will die long before you can dismantle the entire world.

You can farm/forage/trap/fish for endless food.

If you really want, add in mods that allow you to craft the certain things you want.

[crestacuervo]

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

Zombies are also attracted to dead bodies, and you might had some near your house.

Can you confirm it? I really suspect of that. In previous games I used to move all the corpses outside the house but in my current one I haven't yet and all the times when I come back from looting there are at least one inside. I think that the flies sound attract them jajaja.