way on earth is someone bored so. freakin. fast?

[Psykikk]

seriously. its my only gripe with the game in its current state. who cares if I cannot sit down on a couch, lie down in a bed or whatever.
but: we got tons of stuff to tinker and fix while establishing our base. being it carpentry, mechanics, tailoring, cooking. why , oh why, does being indoors - while also doing stuff to occupy the mind- bores the character so freakin fast ?

yes I know I can cheat the game and buid rooms on top of buildings. extend fllors and and all that so that the game "thinks" I am outside. but it´s just stupid and feels fake.

so, please fix this.
otr: is there a mod that fixes this ?
thanks
rant off.

[derp12332112]

Best way to deal with Boredom? Go kill a zombie. Legit, it fixes it.

Every time I'm bored, I go out and smash some skulls. Bam, easy. Character is no longer bored for the next couple of hours and I can work on stuff that needs to get done before Winter.

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Boredom isn`t an issue, get out see a zed and you`ll be fine.

[Verudez01]

Ad to that any food that's no longer fresh and it's a boredom fest. Kinda hard to believe one would be so picky about the food instead of being glad there's any in the first place, especially when every departure outside of their base walls could be their last. Truth to be told I have nearly 100 sodas since I'm drinking water nearly all the time. The occasional soda, pop or wine is opened for special occasions such as finishing a particular construction, scoring loot I need or something like that. Books, magazines and other literature helps, and is laying everywhere once you cannibalized nearly the entire neighborhood.

[B]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Given we’re living through a pandemic where staying home more often is treated as severe imprisonment for a significant percentage of the population, I’m no longer sure it’s that odd.

Covid quarantine has been enlightening that regard. It does seem weird sometimes that our toons are in a real zombie apocalypse wherein infected folks will come and eat you while uninfected very well might shoot you (sharply increased chance in US) but maybe "boredom" doesn't quite capture the feeling of being cooped up AND having to deal w/ a disaster/crisis? The crisis becomes daily life and loses its novelty. IRL I'd start getting nervous and agitated - lots to do but I'm sick of doing or too much to do and I'm tired of planning/prioritizing. In the game I climb down a sheet rope and run about for a < a minute - spotting a zed cures that quickly. What puzzles me is that folks think that a person could build a little farm by a lake w/ a stack of outdated newspapers and magazines (And textbooks -wheeeee) and declare "I won the game!" ...you'd go insane w/ boredom imo. I automatically pick up newspapers anyway - as well as a few magazines. Mods will add other books that are reusable,comic books & adult mags that take away a LOT of boredom, toys, etc. but *I* don't know any mods that will directly affect your character's mood? It's generally not regarded as a huge issue (like Rimworld...) - even if it seems weird sometimes.

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Given we’re living through a pandemic where staying home more often is treated as severe imprisonment for a significant percentage of the population, I’m no longer sure it’s that odd.

"significant percentage of the population"?

I would disagree there. Personally, I have never enjoyed my life more than being able to stay home. And I know a 'significant' number of people who feel the same.

But rather than bring up the 'extrovert/introvert' discussion again, which people can't understand, I will simply disagree with your statement.

[RRG_181917]

i understand getting 'bored' as a gameplay element. i just also wish it actually made sense and wasn't tied to whether or not you're in-doors. how is crafting, cooking, cleaning, building, and things like tailoring/metalworking supposed to be considered boring? these are in-line with natural things we do to occupy ourselves.

just because i'm building walls or breaking down furniture INSIDE shouldn't mean my character is having a ♥♥♥♥ time. i understand they need to incentivize you going out so you can't just sit around inside forever (though why would you, it'd be boring FOR THE PLAYER) but really, working in-doors should prevent this moodlet.

[RRG_181917]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Originally posted by Appelsaus:

i understand getting 'bored' as a gameplay element. i just also wish it actually made sense and wasn't tied to whether or not you're in-doors. how is crafting, cooking, cleaning, building, and things like tailoring/metalworking supposed to be considered boring? these are in-line with natural things we do to occupy ourselves.

just because i'm building walls or breaking down furniture INSIDE shouldn't mean my character is having a ♥♥♥♥ time. i understand they need to incentivize you going out so you can't just sit around inside forever (though why would you, it'd be boring FOR THE PLAYER) but really, working in-doors should prevent this moodlet.

I would prefer it just be called cabin fever, or something to that effect. That’s more in line with what it represents.

yes, precisely

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

"significant percentage of the population"?

I would disagree there. Personally, I have never enjoyed my life more than being able to stay home. And I know a 'significant' number of people who feel the same.

But rather than bring up the 'extrovert/introvert' discussion again, which people can't understand, I will simply disagree with your statement.

If it doesn’t apply to you, then I’m not talking about you. This is the third time this week someone made a general statement and you replied like they were talking about you specifically. I don’t get it.

You say my reply is for me only, but I said the opposite of what you said, so does that not make your 'general' statement apply to you only?

I don't get it...

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

You say my reply is for me only, but I said the opposite of what you said, so does that not make your 'general' statement apply to you only?

I don't get it...

It being about you is referring to a significant portion of the population as you and people you know. Unless you know 3 billion+ people, that's not a significant portion of the population.

Are you saying you know 3 billion+ people? Or that you do not understand what I said?

Anyone stating a 'general' statement means there could be just as many con as there are pro. Without statistics to back up any 'general' claim, it is just that, a personal feeling on the matter.

So when the 'general' statement was made that everybody has cabin fever (as it were) then just as many could 'not' have cabin fever. But the wording of that 'general' statement makes it sound like it is all encompassing of everybody.

The only reason I said anything (which was completely ignored) is because the game assumes everybody can't stand being inside for more than a few minutes and they need to get outside.

[Death]

Originally posted by WillieSea:

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Given we’re living through a pandemic where staying home more often is treated as severe imprisonment for a significant percentage of the population, I’m no longer sure it’s that odd.

"significant percentage of the population"?

I would disagree there. Personally, I have never enjoyed my life more than being able to stay home. And I know a 'significant' number of people who feel the same.

But rather than bring up the 'extrovert/introvert' discussion again, which people can't understand, I will simply disagree with your statement.

I'm with you on this. I was social distancing before it was cool, but people like us really aren't the majority. Most people need human interaction or it leads to severe depression.

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

Are you saying you know 3 billion+ people? Or that you do not understand what I said?

Anyone stating a 'general' statement means there could be just as many con as there are pro. Without statistics to back up any 'general' claim, it is just that, a personal feeling on the matter.

So when the 'general' statement was made that everybody has cabin fever (as it were) then just as many could 'not' have cabin fever. But the wording of that 'general' statement makes it sound like it is all encompassing of everybody.

The only reason I said anything (which was completely ignored) is because the game assumes everybody can't stand being inside for more than a few minutes and they need to get outside.

I am not saying that, no. I am not making any claims either way.

One can see how being put in quarantine affects people just by watching world news or going on social media.

Also, no one said everybody.

World news ONLY reports the bad. You never see the positive side of anything on news. Just like a forum, you only see the complainers and hardly ever see anything positive. That can skew anyone's perception of the real values.

I don't see news vans rolling up to an introverts house to ask them about how bad the quarantine is, because they think it is great. You only see them roll up on extroverts who scream and yell, because that is what sells to the general public.

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

World news ONLY reports the bad. You never see the positive side of anything on news. Just like a forum, you only see the complainers and hardly ever see anything positive. That can skew anyone's perception of the real values.

I don't see news vans rolling up to an introverts house to ask them about how bad the quarantine is, because they think it is great. You only see them roll up on extroverts who scream and yell, because that is what sells to the general public.

You’re forgetting that we’re also people that can experience these things in real life, not just on the news.

It’s fine to be cynical about media as a whole, to an extent, but you seem to be falling into the same trap with the forum. The forum is not mostly negative; it’s only gotten more positive over the years., but human brain is great at filtering out positive data and focusing on the bad stuff entirely separate to news media, entirely separate to reality all by itself, as you’re demonstrating here. We do that when we make the news and we do that when we consume it, as well.

Personally, I’m fine with being alone for weeks on end, but I still go outside and take the dogs on long walks (and there were weeks and months over the last year that leaving my yard was impractical due to covidiots). My house is filled with little projects, but I still get bored. The stress of pandemic still got to me, making it far less enjoyable despite working from home for 8 years. It is different then choosing to be alone or to stay inside when it is forced.

The idea that you paint of introverts just gives me the impression you’re painting an idealized version of yourself and how you differ from the others (extroverts). It seems unnecessarily personal, as was my point earlier. To me, this sort of thing is not a good addition to the conversation.

Regardless, I’d be totally for having a simplified version of introvert/extrovert, outdoors-y vs homebody, if that’s the tldr behind this, but I certainly don’t agree with your views on extroverts or introverts. I’d be very happy seeing boredom and being housebound treated as separate phenomena.

For now, however, the point of boredom is so you don’t cheese the game standing in a bathroom, eating canned food for 7 years, which is what prompted its addition. Aside from poor word choice, the problems people have with it are the whole point of its existence — you’re forced outside and you need to scavenge/explore for additional resources for longer stays, and up your cooking skills.

Edit: oh, ffs. You’re the “it’s just a flu” guy from earlier this year. 10x the number of deaths than attributed to the flu, and you still want to pull that fake news crap. No wonder you’re afraid of being labeled a boomer or whatever age bracket you’re in. You need to believe you have the inside track to maintain your sense of self.

My 'painting of what introverts' are is no different than your painting of your experiences. So to keep going on about what I say in a very narrow sense of what I said in total is wrong, and that what you claim is right, is insecure yourself. I really don't care what you think, or anybody thinks, (not said meanly) and I don't know why you keep making this personal in your replies. Let alone what introvert and extrovert is, as I said already, that is a topic of personal feelings obviously. Lets keep it to the game mechanics.

What I do see is the game painting the player character as having to go outdoors after only a few in-game hours which is only a few minutes real time. This is what I and the OP think is ridiculous. What does it matter if I read a book inside, or standing outside the door to overcome the silly game mechanic.

I can't even quickly sort out my gathered loot before my character has to go outside. It is simply to fast.

Edit: What does the flu have anything to do with this thread? Now you are just being vindictive in your post and not something I would expect from you. Stop making this personal and stick to the topic.

[WillieSea]

Originally posted by EnigmaGrey:

Originally posted by WillieSea:

Edit: What does the flu have anything to do with this thread? Now you are just being vindictive in your post and not something I would expect from you.

I’m pointing out a trend and an escalation in that trend over the past week. It started around the flu thing and carries on to your other comments here. Those inform why you’re being this way,

No skin off my teeth if you choose not to see it, but it’ll end predictably.

And yeah, I get why you feel betrayed given you seemed to reveal in my no-nonsense approach when taking with people taking the piss, but this was never a team sport. You’re acting in the manner that you mocked others for, calling them snowflakes.

Snowflakes, fake news, just a flu, taking personal umbrage at general statements that no one made with you in mind. Not acceptable in our communities.

Well, I won’t belabour the point further. Do or do not.

Well, I have not talked about the flu, snowflakes, or fake news in a very long time, and if I did, you certainly took them out of context. I certainly said nothing about fake news in this thread, that is all your poor interpretation since I only said the news usually covers the bad, not the good, nothing about fake.
Since you are making this personal (and being a moderator on top of that) when I asked to get back on topic, then I guess I am done here. Enjoy your life, twisting other peoples words to fit your personal narrative of how awful I am because I disagree with you.

[Fuchssprung]

Easy fix: do things outside. You only get bored in buildings XD