I Died...What Would You Do?

[BioFringe]

Just curious to see what others have to say.

I've been playing my current game for just over a month in game time and last night (after playing all day and being up til 4am doing so) I died to something stupid. I went to burn a corpse and for some reason (bug or some action I took or didn't take because of being tired) my guy walks up to the corpse and proceeded to set himself on fire. I died.

I play Dead is Dead but does this type of death count? On the one hand I should know better than to play with fire at such late hours of play but on the other, I can't see why this happened at all.

Anyways, I've already deleted the game (I do this as soon as I die so there's no going back once I've had time to think about it). Just curious is all.

[derp12332112]

There are a lot of stupid ways to die. It's how you learn in a game like this.

Anyhow, it's better to make a campfire in a large area of sand/gravel/pavement, then stack bodies on top of it. Safer than lighting it all up.

[DivineEvil]

Originally posted by BioFringe:

I've been playing my current game for just over a month in game time and last night (after playing all day and being up til 4am doing so) I died to something stupid. I went to burn a corpse and for some reason (bug or some action I took or didn't take because of being tired) my guy walks up to the corpse and proceeded to set himself on fire. I died.

It's not a bug, but just the idea that the body can be located anywhere per pixel, while the fire can only occupy a specific grid cell.

Thus, don't use gasoline to burn the corpses. Use the campfire instead. Stack as many bodies as you want on top of it and start the fires with any piece of clothing from them. This way you can be sure to never hurt yourself.

You should not feel bad about an month+ playthrough. I'd say it is a conventional outcome for a regular player, who have learned the ropes.

Originally posted by BioFringe:

I play Dead is Dead but does this type of death count? On the one hand I should know better than to play with fire at such late hours of play but on the other, I can't see why this happened at all.

I used to play with backed-up save files some time ago, but I no longer care about fiddling with it and also play Dead is Dead and no secondary characters for the same save. So yeah, in that sense, any and every death counts.

[BioFringe]

I have over 500 hours over 5 years and multiple builds. I'm not just learning and I know how to play with fire. It was just a stupid mistake on my part to use the Burn Corpse option from the menu while being a good distance away and expecting the game to have my character walk up and start the corpse on fire (like he's done hundreds of times before) without starting himself on fire.

I can understand having options for the character that end up in death (like the Drink Bleach) option but Burn Corpse shouldn't be a death sentence. I'm sure that the devs would prefer that it wasn't a death sentence as opposed to something that the player learns to avoid after using it once.

I was more curious about whether others that play Dead is Dead would "cheat" by starting a new character in the same world, chalking it up to a bug (or bad, late hour mistake) and then pretending like nothing happened? I ask because that's exactly how I felt last night.

EDIT: I wonder if this is exactly why the devs have disabled Fire Spread by default. Guess I should reconsider my sandbox options.

EDIT: Oh, and my last playthrough ended in a fire death by zombies as I forgot to put a lighter in my secondary hand then promptly freaked out about it causing my character to do a dance for the zombies before they ate him.

[Ficelle]

The thing about permadeath games is that when you die you die
This is how it is supposed to be and this is why there is always this tension
No matter how good or experienced you are, you can die at any time

Honestly, without permadeath, most survival games are boring...what are you surviving as an immortal exactly ???


Sure, nothing stops anyone to revert back to a backup save

Still, you would know your character is a fake
Some people have probably NP with that...me, i cant
Ive done it a few times...but ive always ended up disliking this fake character and deleting it anyway

[BioFringe]

While I do agree with you on the point that you made...

It's not about reverting back to a prior save. It's about the in-game option to create a new character in the same world. The game is only perma-death if you so choose. I'm asking others if they would still choose that in light of stupid, late night mistakes with touchy mechanics in an early access game.

For example, if you died to a known bug that the devs themselves have acknowledged as being a bug needing to be fixed would you still start over in a fresh world? Does that instance count as perma-death or is it too cheap of a way to die and lose 10-20 hours of work that you'll just end up doing over and over again anyways?

[Ficelle]

I always start on a fresh map and always permadeath, no matter what

I dont like when my new character starts with an already working base, full of stuff
It totally cheapens the early game...which is the best part of the game (to me....)
If i do that, i end up thinking the character is a weaksauce ---> delete ;D

Ive died once from a bug (almost sure it was a bug...) with a very advanced character
I did the same... in a shock for a few minutes, then new char on a new map...


Now, this is me, but everyone is different, and if you feel like to continue in the same world, so be it
No need to find reasons or excuses or whatever
It is your game...

[Chad1776]

I used to play when I die, no matter what, it was a new start but lately I have just made it a self immposed rule to spawn in a different town as another survivor.

[DivineEvil]

My decision to never start a new character in the same world is mostly due to logistics -having less junk food due to spending a good amount on gaining weight on the previous one, less of stuff to disassemble, fewer weapons to use, etc. I have much more comfort starting completely fresh without a base, than to have a base but with less resources to improve the same skills and stats.

Starting a new character in another town would make more sense, but still, the helicopter event is out, and all the fresh food you could've preserved in a brand new world is spoiled in the current one. Having a safehouse with stored stuff is the only benefit for continuing the safe, and it doesn't really worth it for me compared to the shortcomings.

[BioFringe]

But dang if that safe house isn't sweet and fully loaded to the brim with everything that a new survivor would want. I don't spend much of the first month building up skills or breaking down furniture. It's all about the loot for me. Oh, and I have Helicopter event set to Sometimes so that's would still be in for me but on default you would be correct.

Starting in a new town sounds good except I know that my only thought would be, "Get a vehicle and go to that safe house ASAP". I can't control myself, that's why I delete the game right away. :)

[BioFringe]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

I always start on a fresh map and always permadeath, no matter what

I dont like when my new character starts with an already working base, full of stuff
It totally cheapens the early game...which is the best part of the game (to me....)
If i do that, i end up thinking the character is a weaksauce ---> delete ;D

Ive died once from a bug (almost sure it was a bug...) with a very advanced character
I did the same... in a shock for a few minutes, then new char on a new map...


Now, this is me, but everyone is different, and if you feel like to continue in the same world, so be it
No need to find reasons or excuses or whatever
It is your game...

You essentially feel the same as I do. I have difficulty dealing with the "fakeness" of the new character in the same world and I love the first 4 weeks of each new playthrough. I was just kinda seeing if anyone had any really good reasons that I might consider changing my mind the next time something like this happens.

In Rimworld I would use the dev console all the time to make up for bugs or lacking mechanics. It was the nature of EA for that game at the time that I played. I would also invest hundreds of hours into 1 world and I didn't want a known bug to ruin the whole experience for me. In PZ it's usually 10-20 hours per world at best for me. I'll either die or get bored. Start over.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Well my two cents.
- DO NOT BURN CORPSES, and you shall not have such accidents. This is why i BURY them, and then destroy the grave with sledgehammer to reuse the space if need be.
- Use bbq oven to cook. Timed cooking-> no burning down your house?:)
- Do not play with fire:)

Also it is up to you, but if you are already having this thought, then you should have backed up your save already and reloaded.

I backup my games regularly, because there is an issue with my computer for some reason ALT+TABBING back to the desktop on its own for no reason, no matter what game i play. (I guess it is the antivir, or some win 7 stuff with the last update, since it only happens since then.) And that is no bug, no mistake no nothing, just some setting outside of the game ->backing up my game so i dont lose everything for a reason that is not cuz of PZ.
The other thing why i do it, is similar, every now and then my mouse does a strange movement, whereas even though i do not do the move, it makes a full circle like something, and this can really get you killed when you are doing in a fight. Also happens in other games. So again not a PZ issue.

I am guessing this is a) my antivir software acting up with win 7 since it is not a supported os anymore.
b) my dual monitor setting on its own or with win 7
c) the newest vid card driver i installed.
d) something similar to the first three option, since it affects every game i play, and everything i do.

[Death]

I have never burned myself using the method you are talking about. What I recommend is clicking on the edge of the pile you wish to burn or if you have a zombie arm or leg sticking out of your pile, then click on that. Ultimately I'd chalk it up to playing while tired and just making a simple mistake. This is one of those games where you really don't want to play it if you aren't all there, because one minor mistake can definitely get you killed.

[Manwith Noname]

Originally posted by BioFringe:

I Died...What Would You Do?

Loot your body.

[e.lerstrom]

Originally posted by BioFringe:

Just curious to see what others have to say.

I've been playing my current game for just over a month in game time and last night (after playing all day and being up til 4am doing so) I died to something stupid. I went to burn a corpse and for some reason (bug or some action I took or didn't take because of being tired) my guy walks up to the corpse and proceeded to set himself on fire. I died.

I play Dead is Dead but does this type of death count? On the one hand I should know better than to play with fire at such late hours of play but on the other, I can't see why this happened at all.

Anyways, I've already deleted the game (I do this as soon as I die so there's no going back once I've had time to think about it). Just curious is all.

That's just bad game mechanics so if you could undo it in some way then that would be 100% fine in my book. way more options in the game should have a "are you sure?" prompt before committing since there is so much menu clicking in the game. like how can you "by mistake" climb through a broken window full of glass in a non-stressful situation (cus you were trying to click on "pick up corpse"), or eat a full meal of raw food cus you were sorting your inventory and forgot to put it in the oven, like who the hell wouldnt notice the food was raw after a bite... it's either unfinished or misguided "ohH oUr GaME so HaRDcoRE" to not have prompts before actions that in 90% of cases are nonsensical

[Micheal]

I died because I was greedy, taking a spare 100% condition battery for my car (that I didn’t need and couldn’t install anyway). Over encumbered and a splinter zombie ran out the woods and jumped me , Insta death.
Another time I was washing my clothes at the laundromat, shoes incl, stepped on broken glass while looting the building and well yeah..bled out pretty quickly…it’s always the little things lol.

I’ve thought about making a backup, but then I’d feel bad so I just don’t.