Project Zomboid

Project Zomboid

Psyduck Aug 16, 2019 @ 10:03pm
lightbulb burnouts
Can we talk about the burn out time of light bulbs! And i mean i realize there was a caratel making obsolete lightbulbs!

But jeez its like you have to change half of your light bulbs on a weekly basis ! tempted to say daily at times ! And i really wanted to ask if that is as intended?
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Base Invader Aug 17, 2019 @ 9:10am 
Potentially in a post apocalyptic survival situation such as this where power supplies are intermittent or reliant on less stable generator power frequencies and current supply bulbs will be more susceptible to filament burnout.

However I agree this does seem to occur too often.
Lorenzo_BR Aug 17, 2019 @ 12:58pm 
I've never experienced a burnout.
Psyduck Aug 17, 2019 @ 10:49pm 
I stole about every light bulb in westpoint in about 8 months in game. And im actually running low on them....its dumb since lighting in already prebuildt structures willl never burnout only way to break thouse is to sledge hammer the wall contact for it

And if you have electronic skills :P A power regulator is endless simpel to make. or simply gettinglower watt bulbs and you would rarely burn them out .

a low hour count is considered 2000-3000 hours thats 3-4 months :P not 3-4 days as it is currently
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Vzzdak Aug 18, 2019 @ 6:07am 
In first-world countries, a stable electricity supply is generally taken for granted, where it is doable (though not recommended) to forgo connecting your equipment to a voltage regulator (i.e., to protect your equipment from voltage spikes).

In PZ, the assumption is that electricity plants are no longer being maintained, and equipment is steadily deteriorating, such that complete failure occurs in the months following zombie outbreak.

As the electricity system deteriorates, the quality of delivered electricity would decline, subjecting household equipment to uneven voltage levels (putting a strain on that equipment), and even voltage spikes (likely responsible for burnout of light bulbs).

The situation in PZ is akin to that of third-world power generation, where the variable quality of electricity generation places a notable strain on household equipment, leading to early, predictable failure of that equipment.

Doing a quick search, I found a reasonably easy-to-digest study of the Effects of Bad Electricity Supply[pdfs.semanticscholar.org], based upon statistics collected in Nigeria.
Psyduck Aug 18, 2019 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by Vzzdak:
In first-world countries, a stable electricity supply is generally taken for granted, where it is doable (though not recommended) to forgo connecting your equipment to a voltage regulator (i.e., to protect your equipment from voltage spikes).

In PZ, the assumption is that electricity plants are no longer being maintained, and equipment is steadily deteriorating, such that complete failure occurs in the months following zombie outbreak.

As the electricity system deteriorates, the quality of delivered electricity would decline, subjecting household equipment to uneven voltage levels (putting a strain on that equipment), and even voltage spikes (likely responsible for burnout of light bulbs).

The situation in PZ is akin to that of third-world power generation, where the variable quality of electricity generation places a notable strain on household equipment, leading to early, predictable failure of that equipment.

Doing a quick search, I found a reasonably easy-to-digest study of the Effects of Bad Electricity Supply[pdfs.semanticscholar.org], based upon statistics collected in Nigeria.

Its US some point in the early 80s or late 70s tho....i mean the house i live in is about 90 years old and has same wireing it was buildt with......and that does not cause problems and in a world without Centralized power supply i would wire my generator to same system. we are talking about my generator then and sure over time that might provide less power.

But it has nothing to do with dying infrastructure in Africa. and even with that in mind thats still 2000-3000 hours since thats basically worst case senario.

But lets half that then to make it even worse thats still 41 days.


Lorenzo_BR Aug 18, 2019 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by 𝓹𝓼𝔂𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓴:
Originally posted by Vzzdak:
In first-world countries, a stable electricity supply is generally taken for granted, where it is doable (though not recommended) to forgo connecting your equipment to a voltage regulator (i.e., to protect your equipment from voltage spikes).

In PZ, the assumption is that electricity plants are no longer being maintained, and equipment is steadily deteriorating, such that complete failure occurs in the months following zombie outbreak.

As the electricity system deteriorates, the quality of delivered electricity would decline, subjecting household equipment to uneven voltage levels (putting a strain on that equipment), and even voltage spikes (likely responsible for burnout of light bulbs).

The situation in PZ is akin to that of third-world power generation, where the variable quality of electricity generation places a notable strain on household equipment, leading to early, predictable failure of that equipment.

Doing a quick search, I found a reasonably easy-to-digest study of the Effects of Bad Electricity Supply[pdfs.semanticscholar.org], based upon statistics collected in Nigeria.

Its US some point in the early 80s or late 70s tho....i mean the house i live in is about 90 years old and has same wireing it was buildt with......and that does not cause problems and in a world without Centralized power supply i would wire my generator to same system. we are talking about my generator then and sure over time that might provide less power.

But it has nothing to do with dying infrastructure in Africa. and even with that in mind thats still 2000-3000 hours since thats basically worst case senario.

But lets half that then to make it even worse thats still 41 days.
It takes place in 1993.
Psyduck Aug 18, 2019 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by lorenzobolla:
Originally posted by 𝓹𝓼𝔂𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓴:

Its US some point in the early 80s or late 70s tho....i mean the house i live in is about 90 years old and has same wireing it was buildt with......and that does not cause problems and in a world without Centralized power supply i would wire my generator to same system. we are talking about my generator then and sure over time that might provide less power.

But it has nothing to do with dying infrastructure in Africa. and even with that in mind thats still 2000-3000 hours since thats basically worst case senario.

But lets half that then to make it even worse thats still 41 days.
It takes place in 1993.
hah fair enough i just figured from the ♥♥♥♥ cars and the general lack of any kind fo technology :P

But 1993 is even worse since production of lightbulbs has improved a lot by then....same for generators....also fuel generators cant really run 24/7 :P

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Vzzdak Aug 18, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by 𝓹𝓼𝔂𝓭𝓾𝓬𝓴:
Its US some point in the early 80s or late 70s tho....i mean the house i live in is about 90 years old and has same wireing it was buildt with......and that does not cause problems and in a world without Centralized power supply i would wire my generator to same system. we are talking about my generator then and sure over time that might provide less power.

Yep, Kentucky, USA, in the early 1990s.

Pretty sure you just described yourself as an outlier (i.e., not typical). You also seem to be ignoring the fact that, in PZ, the electric grid is in freefall[worldbuilding.stackexchange.com].
Psyduck Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:05pm 
its the same argument again then, its not a public electricity grind im running on. Its my own generators in my own buildings, meaning i buildt the grid and hence i would maintain it. Since its just a local grind for my stuff.

And it still does not make much sense then since house lighting never burns out. Regardless of public net or generator grid.

So you guys are talking about a rather overpowered generator and im talking about underpowered lightbulbs.

All the above would make sense if there was an actual electricty stats but there arent :P
i can put 200 fridges on one generator and it would not care :P So seems to me the power is very stable everywhere else.
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Ficelle Aug 18, 2019 @ 6:44pm 
I think it is mostly because the game is not really balanced around very long playthroughs

A game is supposed to last a few monthes at best
You have won if you survived that long

Lightbulbs are perhaps too short lived
On the other side, a saw or wrench lasts forever, a square of cabbage / potatoes /... produces way too much and way too fast, the same spot can be foraged each and everyday...etc...etc

It somewhat works for weeks long games, not so much when you enter monthes / years long games
Then, it just becomes ridiculous if you think about it
Psyduck Aug 18, 2019 @ 9:47pm 
Its a game that has a seasons and half a year of world degration; i would be tempted to say from that aspect its a game designed to at least last half a year.

And i guess to me anyways you need to live tru a winter since its the hard part :P

And thats the error of saws, must admidt a wrench is hard to break! rest you can adjust in in game serttings like farming returns, same for forageing, tho i agree that same spot usage is a bit broken :P
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VelxraTV (Banned) Aug 19, 2019 @ 6:51am 
There is no light burn out. If there is, it would be years until that would even happen in a fresh world.

I could be wrong of course.
WillieSea Aug 19, 2019 @ 8:31am 
Lamps and wall lights you can see have bulbs (right click on them to see it). And those bulbs burn out all the time.

House lights that use a switch, you cannot see and do not burn out. But you cannot put these lights in a house you build yourself.
McCog Oct 4, 2019 @ 6:16pm 
some of us don't find replacing light bulbs fun. there should be an option to bipass this "feature".
Orclover Oct 4, 2019 @ 9:42pm 
Yea it's pretty annoying. If you put any sort of outside yard lighting up around your house you end up having to replace a bulb every 2-3 days, it gets old. Just how cheap are these bulbs supposed to be, everything wasnt made in China until early 2000's, we should be a bit more reliable in 1993.
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