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M16 assault rifle
The maximum damage of M16 assault rifles is 4.5 which is the highest in the game but I usually have to spend about 5 ammo to kill a zombie.
On the other hand,the maximum damage of metal pipes is 1 but most of the time,hitting a zombie with a metal pipe 4 times is enough to kill.
Is this a bug?
Última edición por totally confused; 23 ENE 2020 a las 5:20
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Izzy 23 ENE 2020 a las 6:03 
Publicado originalmente por totally confused:
The maximum damage of M16 assault rifles is 4.5 which is the highest in the game but I usually have to spend about 5 ammo to kill a zombie.
On the other hand,the maximum damage of metal pipes is 1 but most of the time,hitting a zombie with a metal pipe 4 times is enough to kill.
Is this a bug?

What about your aiming skill? If it's low then your char probably shoots the body, not the head.
totally confused 23 ENE 2020 a las 6:32 
I started a new game to compare assault rifles with metal pipes,so my aiming skill was 1 but my short blunt skill was also 1.
The assault rifles seem to be useless if high aiming skills are necessary.
Axz (Bloqueado) 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:24 
That sounds about right, if you don't have experience firing guns then an assault rifle is like a virgin walking into an orgy, it ain't half diving in at the deep end, you should probably start off with something a little lighter (assuming it's fully auto' that is).
Brother Frederick 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:26 
Whaa ? M16 ? Ingame ? Like Vanilla game ?!
The Gat 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:32 
Publicado originalmente por Fred:
Whaa ? M16 ? Ingame ? Like Vanilla game ?!
Yes, in build 41
Brother Frederick 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:52 
Huh, haven't see a single one yet... But then again, I haven't see a single katana and only one machete so far, through like 4 runs.

Cheers.
Última edición por Brother Frederick; 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:53
The Gat 23 ENE 2020 a las 7:59 
Publicado originalmente por Fred:
Huh, haven't see a single one yet... But then again, I haven't see a single katana and only one machete so far, through like 4 runs.

Cheers.
Try debug mode or necroforge
totally confused 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:11 
Publicado originalmente por Axz:
That sounds about right, if you don't have experience firing guns then an assault rifle is like a virgin walking into an orgy, it ain't half diving in at the deep end, you should probably start off with something a little lighter (assuming it's fully auto' that is).
Now I understand how guns work in the game.
PZ is incredibly realistic.
The Gat 23 ENE 2020 a las 8:41 
Publicado originalmente por totally confused:
Publicado originalmente por Axz:
That sounds about right, if you don't have experience firing guns then an assault rifle is like a virgin walking into an orgy, it ain't half diving in at the deep end, you should probably start off with something a little lighter (assuming it's fully auto' that is).
Now I understand how guns work in the game.
PZ is incredibly realistic.
Shotguns are good no matter your skill level, they can hit and kill multiple targets thus increasing your aiming skill faster.
donnietr 23 ENE 2020 a las 16:19 
I taught my non shooting wife to be competitive with 250 rounds of 9mm. I am talking timed double tap to a steel target. First time she shot a long gun it was a m1 rifle, dead center from 300 yards, open sights. Second long gun was a sks, same results.
So using this as a template we should be able to double tap zeds with in 250 rounds. M16 has crap recoile compared to a 30.06 m1, or a sks.
I was using the DE in .44 with a silencer and was getting a green sillouette at 1 pace. red until then. It was red all the way out but i could still hit them, just not placed. Not like it was in pre 41. Something just isnt right.
Brother Frederick 23 ENE 2020 a las 16:35 
Publicado originalmente por donnietr:
I was using the DE in .44 with a silencer and was getting a green sillouette at 1 pace. red until then. It was red all the way out but i could still hit them, just not placed. Not like it was in pre 41. Something just isnt right.


I'm betting it's because of mod. Vanilla don't have silencers and I have no such troubles.

nasKo  [desarrollador] 23 ENE 2020 a las 16:45 
The M16 only spawns in one of the challenges. It is not in the vanilla game. Anyone who gets it outside of a challenge is using a mod.

It is neither balanced nor intended to be in the base game outside of the challenge.
Brother Frederick 23 ENE 2020 a las 16:57 
Publicado originalmente por nasKo:
The M16 only spawns in one of the challenges. It is not in the vanilla game. Anyone who gets it outside of a challenge is using a mod.

It is neither balanced nor intended to be in the base game outside of the challenge.


Does that mean that it wont be in vanilla and military zambambos wont be present ? No National Guard or if present armed with WWI bolt-action rifles ?
Última edición por Brother Frederick; 23 ENE 2020 a las 17:45
VelxraTV (Bloqueado) 24 ENE 2020 a las 5:12 
Publicado originalmente por Fred:
Publicado originalmente por nasKo:
The M16 only spawns in one of the challenges. It is not in the vanilla game. Anyone who gets it outside of a challenge is using a mod.

It is neither balanced nor intended to be in the base game outside of the challenge.


Does that mean that it wont be in vanilla and military zambambos wont be present ? No National Guard or if present armed with WWI bolt-action rifles ?

which highlights the importance of using mods to make the game more "as expected" to real life.
nasKo  [desarrollador] 24 ENE 2020 a las 8:00 
Publicado originalmente por Fred:
Publicado originalmente por nasKo:
The M16 only spawns in one of the challenges. It is not in the vanilla game. Anyone who gets it outside of a challenge is using a mod.

It is neither balanced nor intended to be in the base game outside of the challenge.


Does that mean that it wont be in vanilla and military zambambos wont be present ? No National Guard or if present armed with WWI bolt-action rifles ?


Publicado originalmente por Not Yoshimitsu:
Publicado originalmente por Fred:


Does that mean that it wont be in vanilla and military zambambos wont be present ? No National Guard or if present armed with WWI bolt-action rifles ?

I'm hoping he just means "For now" having the Military carry Pistols, Shotguns and DMR's vs Zombies seems like a hilariously bad way of handling crowd control. Automatic on a weapon exists for one reason, and it's not for long range engagements vs a platoon.

The intention of fully automatic is for short to mid range crowd control, execution and also suppression. There is no way the US Military would be sending in soldiers armed to the teeth without automatic rifles etc
Yes I was purely speaking in a matter of "is" not "will be forever".

We went on record that the military will be a thing.
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