Effective ways to level strength/fitness?

[Liro Raériyo]

Decided to really put some effort into figuring out how to do this, does anyone have any real information about this?

[Liro Raériyo]

Yeah, i already know about that, ive got a tree in my base i call the silverware slayer, on acount of all the forks and spoons and butter knives i break on it so i can level fitness/strength/blade maintenance.

The problem is that i dont really know of any way to amplify the amount of EXP you get, as far as i have figured out, nothing effects the rate at which fitness raises, it will always raise at one point per hit.

Strength however can fluctuate for many reasons, but i havent figured out all of them yet, i do know that being obese seems to increase EXP per hit to 2 EXP, and being overweight is 1.4~ish, very very very slightly more then 1.4 but its super damn close, and lastly doing it while injured (weather its due to pain or scratches that havent been healed yet, i know not) gives 3 EXP to strength per hit, but fitness is always 1 point.

Thinking of it like that though, starting off with the worst strength and the best fitness modifiers makes more sense then the reverse since strength can be consistently and controlably leveled significantly faster then fitness. (i started both at the lowest point, and by the time im half way done getting the EXP for fitness 5 ill be done strength 6)

[Dapper]

just push on the tree slow and steady :)

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

Originally posted by xTheFluffySheeps:

just push on the tree slow and steady :)

This.

Also running (fitness) arround with to much cargo (strength) helps leveling.

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

Yeah, i already know about that, ive got a tree in my base i call the silverware slayer, on acount of all the forks and spoons and butter knives i break on it so i can level fitness/strength/blade maintenance.

The problem is that i dont really know of any way to amplify the amount of EXP you get, as far as i have figured out, nothing effects the rate at which fitness raises, it will always raise at one point per hit.

Strength however can fluctuate for many reasons, but i havent figured out all of them yet, i do know that being obese seems to increase EXP per hit to 2 EXP, and being overweight is 1.4~ish, very very very slightly more then 1.4 but its super damn close, and lastly doing it while injured (weather its due to pain or scratches that havent been healed yet, i know not) gives 3 EXP to strength per hit, but fitness is always 1 point.

Thinking of it like that though, starting off with the worst strength and the best fitness modifiers makes more sense then the reverse since strength can be consistently and controlably leveled significantly faster then fitness. (i started both at the lowest point, and by the time im half way done getting the EXP for fitness 5 ill be done strength 6)

Being obese or overweight doesn't effect you xp modifiers for Strength or Fitness. Nothing does. What you are experiencing is the fact that low levels of Strength and Fitness take much, MUCH less XP to level up than high levels. The last level of Strength and Fitness requires more xp than all the other levels combined. What I'm saying is, is that Strength and Fitness have an exponential xp growth rate, and it's ridiculously high. The reason for that is because they want level 4-5 of Strength and Fitness to be the standard for every character, because that level represents an average person's health. Only bodybuilders should be at max level Strength, and only marathon champion runners should be at max Fitness. Your average everyday person is certainly neither of those things, because it requires a massive amount of training to reach those levels of strength and fitness.

[Liro Raériyo]

No deadly dan that is not at all accurate, i physically checked between hits that while injured i was gaining 3 EXP per hit on the tree with anything, while in normal condition while obese i was gaining 2 EXP, and normal condition while overweight was giving me 1.4~, Additionally, i also noted that being at 3rd level of exhaustion disables earning EXP for fitness and strength as well, still havent tested encumbered though.

And as for the EXP getting significantly more each level? thats obvious as hell good man, it goes 1500, 3000, 6000, 9000, 18000, 30000, from what ive seen so far, and while yes its a good arguement to say the last levels are supposed to be unreachable, id also like to counter that arguement that living in the zombie apocalypse is going to condition you into a much more fit person, additionally, where are all the weights and arobics gear? i should be able to set up a gym to train should i not? but future release i do hope.

Now please, dont be so dismissive, thats not what the topic is, im asking for any confirmed information about it.

[Spidey19355]

If you pick the fit or athletic trait, you get an xp modifier in fitness. If you pick strong or stout, you get an xp modifier in strength. Not sure about the negative perks though.

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

No deadly dan that is not at all accurate, i physically checked between hits that while injured i was gaining 3 EXP per hit on the tree with anything, while in normal condition while obese i was gaining 2 EXP, and normal condition while overweight was giving me 1.4~, Additionally, i also noted that being at 3rd level of exhaustion disables earning EXP for fitness and strength as well, still havent tested encumbered though.

And as for the EXP getting significantly more each level? thats obvious as hell good man, it goes 1500, 3000, 6000, 9000, 18000, 30000, from what ive seen so far, and while yes its a good arguement to say the last levels are supposed to be unreachable, id also like to counter that arguement that living in the zombie apocalypse is going to condition you into a much more fit person, additionally, where are all the weights and arobics gear? i should be able to set up a gym to train should i not? but future release i do hope.

Now please, dont be so dismissive, thats not what the topic is, im asking for any confirmed information about it.

Alright, I just went and tested every scenario that you did. Started a new game with a new character, picked either ONLY the Obese, Overweight, or no traits. Lastly I injured myself. Each time I walked up to a tree and pushed it. EVERY SINGLE TIME IT WAS ONLY 2 XP. No matter what trait I had, and being injured didn't change it either. This is on the latest IWBUMS. IT WAS ALWAYS 2 XP. And the fitness modifiers ALWAYS stay at +125%. Nothing changes that either. So no, YOU ARE WRONG. Or something is wrong with your game or you are using mods that are changing the values, or you aren't doing a controlled test. Now please, don't talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Liro Raériyo]

Originally posted by Spidey19355:

If you pick the fit or athletic trait, you get an xp modifier in fitness. If you pick strong or stout, you get an xp modifier in strength. Not sure about the negative perks though.

No actually you dont, fitness and strength are not effected by any XP modifiers.

[Liro Raériyo]

Originally posted by DeadlyDanDaMan:

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

No deadly dan that is not at all accurate, i physically checked between hits that while injured i was gaining 3 EXP per hit on the tree with anything, while in normal condition while obese i was gaining 2 EXP, and normal condition while overweight was giving me 1.4~, Additionally, i also noted that being at 3rd level of exhaustion disables earning EXP for fitness and strength as well, still havent tested encumbered though.

And as for the EXP getting significantly more each level? thats obvious as hell good man, it goes 1500, 3000, 6000, 9000, 18000, 30000, from what ive seen so far, and while yes its a good arguement to say the last levels are supposed to be unreachable, id also like to counter that arguement that living in the zombie apocalypse is going to condition you into a much more fit person, additionally, where are all the weights and arobics gear? i should be able to set up a gym to train should i not? but future release i do hope.

Now please, dont be so dismissive, thats not what the topic is, im asking for any confirmed information about it.

Alright, I just went and tested every scenario that you did. Started a new game with a new character, picked either ONLY the Obese, Overweight, or no traits. Lastly I injured myself. Each time I walked up to a tree and pushed it. EVERY SINGLE TIME IT WAS ONLY 2 XP. No matter what trait I had, and being injured didn't change it either. This is on the latest IWBUMS. IT WAS ALWAYS 2 XP. And the fitness modifiers ALWAYS stay at +125%. Nothing changes that either. So no, YOU ARE WRONG. Or something is wrong with your game or you are using mods that are changing the values, or you aren't doing a controlled test. Now please, don't talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.

Dan, you yourself literally said being obese or overweight has no effect on your EXP in the first post, then you just now repeated exactly what i said, being obese gave 2 EXP per hit, what thell are you even talking about? Now please quit with this destructive behaviour man, the entire point of this thread is to help find any and all reasons why you might gain more or less EXP for fitness and strength, so stop acting like being right is important.

Now onto the important part, Can you describe to me in detail everything about your condition while injured? where your arms injured or just other body parts? where you hungry or starving or any other such negative moodle, positive moodles even? any particular traits? because id like to know why you are getting 2 instead of 3.

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

Originally posted by DeadlyDanDaMan:

Alright, I just went and tested every scenario that you did. Started a new game with a new character, picked either ONLY the Obese, Overweight, or no traits. Lastly I injured myself. Each time I walked up to a tree and pushed it. EVERY SINGLE TIME IT WAS ONLY 2 XP. No matter what trait I had, and being injured didn't change it either. This is on the latest IWBUMS. IT WAS ALWAYS 2 XP. And the fitness modifiers ALWAYS stay at +125%. Nothing changes that either. So no, YOU ARE WRONG. Or something is wrong with your game or you are using mods that are changing the values, or you aren't doing a controlled test. Now please, don't talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.

Dan, you yourself literally said being obese or overweight has no effect on your EXP in the first post, then you just now repeated exactly what i said, being obese gave 2 EXP per hit, what thell are you even talking about? Now please quit with this destructive behaviour man, the entire point of this thread is to help find any and all reasons why you might gain more or less EXP for fitness and strength, so stop acting like being right is important.

Now onto the important part, Can you describe to me in detail everything about your condition while injured? where your arms injured or just other body parts? where you hungry or starving or any other such negative moodle, positive moodles even? any particular traits? because id like to know why you are getting 2 instead of 3.

Dude, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IT IS ALWAYS 2 XP. IT DOESN'T CHANGE. I'm done with this conversation because apparently you can't understand that.

[Quikel]

I would be interested in finding out if you can reliably level those attributes. So far I never bothered because even after months (like 7) I didn't even made halfway into fitness/strength 8. Started with 7 I think.

Maybe it's viable to level with the hydrocraft-able bench or the treadmill, but in vanilla I simply stopped bothering.

[Liro Raériyo]

Yeah, its more viable to level up fitness and strength from 0 back up to 5, removing the negative traits you aquired early on, going all the way up to 10? that seems very time consuming, on the plus side, it only took me 6 ingame weeks of sporadic effort to get from 0 to 5 strength, so again canceling out the negative traits isnt exactly unreasonable.

I just hope we get actual gym equipment as vanilla type stuff that we can use for actual training of fitness and strength, hell why not allow us to punch trees while holding weights for extra EXP, 1 in each hand is 1 bonus EXP each, after that i dunno, a heavy backpack also increases EXP, alot of ways to go about it really.

[zantanzuken]

of note, its likely that the reason your gaining extra from being overweight (not the traits, but in equipment weight) is because your constantly taking small amounts of damage while overweight, same with being injured, taking actions while doing so damages your base health slightly, which would give experience to the strength stat.