Any chance Destiny 2 will ever be fully reassembled?

[Jiffypop]

What I mean by that is will all the stories and removed content ever be put back into the game, so one can play through it continuously? I feel like I missed so much and I really want to play older missions, but most of the stuff is gone due to that content vault. Any chance that the game will be remade to hold everything, or perhaps even a remaster down the line?

[Horn]

Very unlikely. It's not just the old campaigns. If you want to understand the story completely, then they will have to bring back the old seasons too, which also had important events for the story. And this will not happen, because the seasons were originally created disposable.

[Vice]

We're never getting the whole game back because 'Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain' and '[t]he size and complexity of the game are also contributing to more bugs and less innovation' these days, so RIP the actual story experience for anyone new or returning I guess.

[`digitaL.braVo]

Originally posted by Vice:

We're never getting the whole game back because 'Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain' and '[t]he size and complexity of the game are also contributing to more bugs and less innovation' these days, so RIP the actual story experience for anyone new or returning I guess.

It's funny because, from a technology perspective, this makes absolutely zero sense at all. This game reuses assets like crazy there's no "size" problem in Destiny 2. And the "contributing to more bugs" is just ridiculous, the game follows nearly the same rules in PvE at every level.

They just removed it because they knew selling it to players 5+ years later would create gigamad.

[Jiffypop]

Originally posted by `digitaL.braVo:

Originally posted by Vice:

We're never getting the whole game back because 'Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain' and '[t]he size and complexity of the game are also contributing to more bugs and less innovation' these days, so RIP the actual story experience for anyone new or returning I guess.

It's funny because, from a technology perspective, this makes absolutely zero sense at all. This game reuses assets like crazy there's no "size" problem in Destiny 2. And the "contributing to more bugs" is just ridiculous, the game follows nearly the same rules in PvE at every level.

They just removed it because they knew selling it to players 5+ years later would create gigamad.

As a SWE, I agree that it's blatantly a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ move to remove content "because it breaks the game". For size issues? I can understand. The base game is 100+ gigs for what's in there and I doubt they've gone to optimize things. I wouldn't want a 500 gig game on my xbox or something. But there are certainly solutions around that. Like optimization, or allowing DLCs to be uninstalled and installed at will that store certain parts of the game. Or just straight up make people hold the entire chunk. There's surely folks who wouldn't mind it.

But "we add new things and it breaks old things" is total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or they're just straight up incompetent or they simply don't care to actually look into why unrelated additions break the game. Especially with how much revenue this game generates, it would be absolutely no problem to solve this "issue" if it really existed. But no, once a year vault rotations is what will keep the game alive through artificial lifespan prolonging.

[trukr]

It would be nice, if people actually knew what they were talking about.

As to the question, who knows? It's not real likely, but at some point maybe.

As to the selling it back, that was addressed long ago, no removed content will be sold back, what does come back will be free.

[Vice]

Originally posted by Jiffypop:

or they're just straight up incompetent

That is kinda modern Bungie in a nutshell, yeah.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Vice:

Originally posted by Jiffypop:

or they're just straight up incompetent

That is kinda modern Bungie in a nutshell, yeah.

This is not restricted to Bungie. I think if the creative people at Bungie were set free, they could do some good things, the "bean counters" stand in the way. It's all over the place, the studios are run like business, not art. The people in power in the companies are all about maximizing profits.

[Jiffypop]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by Vice:

That is kinda modern Bungie in a nutshell, yeah.

This is not restricted to Bungie. I think if the creative people at Bungie were set free, they could do some good things, the "bean counters" stand in the way. It's all over the place, the studios are run like business, not art. The people in power in the companies are all about maximizing profits.

Fair but I don't know any other game in the past two decades that just straight up is wildly successful and just straight up removes paid content and stories, in a game that's hardly 7 years old. I could be wrong though.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Jiffypop:

Originally posted by trukr:

This is not restricted to Bungie. I think if the creative people at Bungie were set free, they could do some good things, the "bean counters" stand in the way. It's all over the place, the studios are run like business, not art. The people in power in the companies are all about maximizing profits.

Fair but I don't know any other game in the past two decades that just straight up is wildly successful and just straight up removes paid content and stories, in a game that's hardly 7 years old. I could be wrong though.

You kind of are wrong, but that's far from the point.
Remember that expansion called Beyond Light? That was going to be Destiny 3, Bungie didn't even want to do Destiny 2, they had their ten year plan, and it was all about Destiny, no 2 or 3 involved. The expansion before, Shadowkeep, was filler, that time they admitted it was filler and it was priced like it was, $35.00 including a season pass. It was filler because they left Activision, the ones that forced Destiny 2 (the one thing I like about Activision, I got Destiny 2 on PC). Now, you have a company that didn't want any 2 or 3 no longer with the people that pushed the 2 and 3, what would you think they might do?

Beyond light was not compatible with the older content (other than Shadowkeep), so we got Shadowkeep giving them more time to bring the old content up to run on the new version of Tiger. Even an added year to work on it, they were still three months late releasing Beyond Light. The managed to get Forsaken done, well, it along with everything was a buggy mess on release. The choice was Destiny 3, or that, and I and a lot of others didn't want to hear about any "your vault was destroyed and you get to start over" crud.

The too big to maintain had nothing to do with consoles, there were already larger games on console, it did have to do with "we threw Destiny 2 together like the disposable code that Activision wanted, with little to no comments/documentation for debugging. It was more than they could pull off. That's not to say that it wasn't Bungie that caused it, they did with sloppy work, it was their fault. Maybe too much "me time" and not enough "let's get this done right time"

I preferred and still prefer what they did. There was no chance I would have ever deleted a character to play those old campaigns, I still have all my characters, never deleted any. New player, you snooze you loose, not my fault it took them years to get here. I would be OK with it all coming back as free to play content like it was before Beyond Light, I thought that was kind of nice for new/free players. I also will miss no sleep over it not being here.

In the end, Bungie is a company with some talented people, because of the people running things, they suck.

I personally wish they had Destiny on PC and stayed with the ten year plan, but no, they had to be console snobs. I appear to be stuck on good games with a 2 made by companies with talent and bad management, Gearbox and Bungie.