Special ammo transmat in crucible

[Potato! VT]

Why is it suddenly like this, this was not a thing last week, i get it for the supremacy guardian games mode but in normal everyday control matches its stupid, why both having a secondary weapon if you don't get to use it, i hope its only for this week and reset it goes back to normal.

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Potato! VT:

Why is it suddenly like this, this was not a thing last week, i get it for the supremacy guardian games mode but in normal everyday control matches its stupid, why both having a secondary weapon if you don't get to use it, i hope its only for this week and reset it goes back to normal.

It was a change made to all crucible gamemodes last week, you now need to get kills to get the special ammo transmat. this was done to prevent people from using special weapons like primaries and making them think about when to use their ammo.

[Kylito]

It was an intended change, and a good one at that. Special ammo weapons are objectively better than primaries, and the ammo being everywhere makes primaries almost useless. The special weapons are what you always pulled out first in a gunfight, primaries are just a last resort or filler. Now it's the other way around, and makes much more sense. You have to use a primary and engage in combat to get special ammo.

Given how Bungo made Halo, them using a similar "limited resource you earn" system for D2 now makes sense.

[Potato! VT]

Right thanks guys! i was just wondering cause i was getting hammered by people still with shotguns and it seemed odd that if not getting as much ammo how were they doing this so much, i personally use an auto rifle (artic haze.gnawing hunger) as my primary and i have the witherhoard as my secondary for longer range as i'm not accurate with the autos at the longer range and they just don't seem to hit as hard

[-_|S.V|_-Shpymouse]

Originally posted by Kylito:

It was an intended change, and a good one at that. Special ammo weapons are objectively better than primaries, and the ammo being everywhere makes primaries almost useless. The special weapons are what you always pulled out first in a gunfight, primaries are just a last resort or filler. Now it's the other way around, and makes much more sense. You have to use a primary and engage in combat to get special ammo.

Given how Bungo made Halo, them using a similar "limited resource you earn" system for D2 now makes sense.

Yes, special ammo is better than primary, but they made only for a short or long distance, and so you can't use sniper at close range, or try to shot someone from shotgun at 10+ meters and so you'll need to use both primary and special. An old system gave you 2 special weapon ammo at respawn or 1 for each if you're running double special, and +1 ammo for each kill. That system forgives your first miss and rewards you with an opportunity to do one more shot if you kill an enemy. Checkmate system gives you 2 special ammo for 10 kills and that's quite big number of kills to do comparing with your reward. With that change any reason to use special at all is worthless because I can use double primary instead of praying to get 2 bullets. Checkmate killed every single special weapon in game forcing you to use your priamary. Tell me what is the point to training with sniper rifle if I can do only 6 shots in 10 minute long match? Old system was way better than checkmate and checmate itself should be forgotten as it happend to d2 vanilla ammo system where's every single special been putted in heavy slot

[Coeal]

id nuke special from orbit if i could. stop crutching on one shot weapons

[Potato! VT]

Originally posted by Coeal:

id nuke special from orbit if i could. stop crutching on one shot weapons :er_angry:

i don't, i use it for longer range engagements and getting people out of/killing bubble and wells for the betterment of the team, i get most of my kills with a normal auto rifle. not an exotic one either. Also been doing alot better now ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ can't spam their shotguns. So it seems to not have affected me much at all, i was just asking, for others they can't seem to play without their special stuff, so calm down and stop assuming i'm one of those sweaty c*#ts.