I think the PvP dying is a good thing, actually.

[annoying spawncamper]

Cuz let's face it, Destiny has always been marketed as a PvE looter shooter where you take the role of superpowered undead humans against alien invaders. There was little if any marketing centered around the Crucible or Trials.

PvP was merely an after-thought that was mean't to be enjoyed casually, but Bungie didn't anticipate it growing a large demographic of toxic CoDslop enjoyers, so they felt obligated to divert half its resources to Crucible, Trials and Iron Banner. Overtime the game gradually suffered in quality because of it, and they had to focus less on that side of the game as a result.

PvP dying is unfortunately inevitable, but it must be accepted for the growth and sustainability of the game. If it didn't exist, we would be having 2 raids per expansion. Plus, PvPers are known to be really toxic and miserable, so the overall environment of the community would be a lot more positive if they migrated to Valorant or Apex Legends!

[Kylito]

Launch D2 was so centered around competitive-level PvP that they slowed movement speeds and removed special weapons, with slower TTK. It sucked and was boring, because in order for D2 PvP to be fun, it has to be just a *little* bit broken. Now, WHAT is broken can still be a problem. ARs, SMGs, or HCs being meta is fine, but a pulse or scout meta is not. Too much special, too many abilities, etc. All problems.

It doesn't take many resources from them to just nerf/buff stuff, so wanting that to be given up on like in the Shadowkeep era is pointless. PvP might not be the focus of the entire game, but that would be like saying them abandoning Strikes would be good. Why do you want LESS options in the game?

[Farango]

Not many trully understand - Destiny2 is Not PvP Game!!!
PvP is a small addition to game to attract more players - that's why you have PvP in destiny.
Why would Guardians fight each other if there's no Rouge Guardians line in general

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Farango:

Not many trully understand - Destiny2 is Not PvP Game!!!
PvP is a small addition to game to attract more players - that's why you have PvP in destiny.
Why would Guardians fight each other if there's no Rouge Guardians line in general

Mf has not heard of training or sparing, how else are guardians supposed to learn how to fight lol

[Farango]

Originally posted by Eriana:

Originally posted by Farango:

Not many trully understand - Destiny2 is Not PvP Game!!!
PvP is a small addition to game to attract more players - that's why you have PvP in destiny.
Why would Guardians fight each other if there's no Rouge Guardians line in general

Mf has not heard of training or sparing, how else are guardians supposed to learn how to fight lol

How about Matrix-like loaded directly in memory different fight programs during resurrection by "Sci-fi-high-tech-super-duper-Ghost"

Mf how about this?

[Farango]

Originally posted by Eriana:

Originally posted by Farango:

Not many trully understand - Destiny2 is Not PvP Game!!!
PvP is a small addition to game to attract more players - that's why you have PvP in destiny.
Why would Guardians fight each other if there's no Rouge Guardians line in general

Mf has not heard of training or sparing, how else are guardians supposed to learn how to fight lol

MF still don't understand how absurd World of destiny2 is and what we actually fighting for.
Last City by lore it The Only place with Humans, just think of it.
One city is everything what's left from humans.
Humans have strong enemies they can't resist even with guardians.
No army, no fleet, no actual forces to fight enemies back.
Lore is a joke

[Oku]

Originally posted by Farango:

Originally posted by Eriana:

Mf has not heard of training or sparing, how else are guardians supposed to learn how to fight lol

MF still don't understand how absurd World of destiny2 is and what we actually fighting for.
Last City by lore it The Only place with Humans, just think of it.
One city is everything what's left from humans.
Humans have strong enemies they can't resist even with guardians.
No army, no fleet, no actual forces to fight enemies back.
Lore is a joke

Humanity has all three of those things and they killed Universe-Ending Over-God with them literally what the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about