Why are people throwing treasure balls out of bounds?

[Valen]

As the title says:

I have noticed players purposely throwing the golden treasure balls that are suppose to be collected - out of bounds or far away - so they can not be collected during Expedition.

Seems like the amount of people doing this is getting greater every day - not something that I saw happening at the start of the season.

I can only conclude that these individuals are doing this on purpose - for their own reasons - without any consideration for the other players.

[sunGLAZER]

Most people doing that are trying to get certain enemies to spawn so they can get a seal. If they fill up the loot car too quickly then those enemies don't spawn in. Pretty weird decision to have the necessary enemies spawn in only if the players take too long.

[Valen]

Originally posted by SKULLHACKERS, Inc.:

Most people doing that are trying to get certain enemies to spawn so they can get a seal. If they fill up the loot car too quickly then those enemies don't spawn in. Pretty weird decision to have the necessary enemies spawn in only if the players take too long.

I get it - on the other hand they are ruining the game for other people.

[valfarovhel]

Originally posted by Valen:

Originally posted by SKULLHACKERS, Inc.:

Most people doing that are trying to get certain enemies to spawn so they can get a seal. If they fill up the loot car too quickly then those enemies don't spawn in. Pretty weird decision to have the necessary enemies spawn in only if the players take too long.

I get it - on the other hand they are running the game for other people.

Some are trolling, like titans who used to knock chests off the map to the point that Bungie had to anchor them down or those who SC you away from heavy.

[Anzaman]

Originally posted by Valen:

Originally posted by SKULLHACKERS, Inc.:

Most people doing that are trying to get certain enemies to spawn so they can get a seal. If they fill up the loot car too quickly then those enemies don't spawn in. Pretty weird decision to have the necessary enemies spawn in only if the players take too long.

I get it - on the other hand they are running the game for other people.

No other way to advance on the triumph tho.

You might as well work on it too while you can.

[Ryuukaze]

Originally posted by Valen:

Originally posted by SKULLHACKERS, Inc.:

Most people doing that are trying to get certain enemies to spawn so they can get a seal. If they fill up the loot car too quickly then those enemies don't spawn in. Pretty weird decision to have the necessary enemies spawn in only if the players take too long.

I get it - on the other hand they are running the game for other people.

While I understand the frustration, the cause of this is the quests that Bungie has implemented. There were ways to implement this that wouldn't have had people deliberately work against other players to complete their own goals. I've noticed a pattern of this, though, so I don't think Bungie will ever stop making quests like this.

Don't hate the players for doing what they need to.

[trukr]

They do it because if you complete the area too soon the ruffian will not spawn and they need lots of ruffians for their title.

[Chillin]

yea, i'm one of them. I also cast a Titan bubble around it so others cant just throw and bank treasure..i strongly advise others to do the same. 2 people throwing treasure and casting bubble to prevent other player to bank gets the job done.

it's extremely annoying when you have 2 players wanting to farm ruffians and the other idiot is constantly banking treasure even when its blatantly obvious the others are trying to delay banking treasure. that extra time makes all the difference

also if you check sesson of plunder triumphs there is one triumph where you have to kill 250

[Chillin]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by Bing_Chilling:

yea, i'm one of them. I also cast a Titan bubble around it so others cant just throw and bank treasure..i strongly advise others to do the same. 2 people throwing treasure and casting bubble to prevent other player to bank gets the job done.

it's extremely annoying when you have 2 players wanting to farm ruffians and the other idiot is constantly banking treasure even when its blatantly obvious the others are trying to delay banking treasure. that extra time makes all the difference

also if you check sesson of plunder triumphs there is one triumph where you have to kill 250

Why don't you just create a fireteam on the app? Much easier and no hassle, of course you will still meet people who do this, or rush, anyway.
Imo both sides should create fireteams to either rush or farm or go in MM with the understanding that some people will just do one or the other and just accept it.
I try at least to let one ruffian spawn each time before throwing in the last balls.

I have done in the past but most of the time it takes ages for people to join when making a fireteam. or there are no fireteams for it to join. So i make do soloing it. i get 3 most of the time.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by Bing_Chilling:

yea, i'm one of them. I also cast a Titan bubble around it so others cant just throw and bank treasure..i strongly advise others to do the same. 2 people throwing treasure and casting bubble to prevent other player to bank gets the job done.

it's extremely annoying when you have 2 players wanting to farm ruffians and the other idiot is constantly banking treasure even when its blatantly obvious the others are trying to delay banking treasure. that extra time makes all the difference

also if you check sesson of plunder triumphs there is one triumph where you have to kill 250

Why don't you just create a fireteam on the app? Much easier and no hassle, of course you will still meet people who do this, or rush, anyway.
Imo both sides should create fireteams to either rush or farm or go in MM with the understanding that some people will just do one or the other and just accept it.
I try at least to let one ruffian spawn each time before throwing in the last balls.

It cost a person not interested in the Ruffian less time than it cost the ones who want it in time to find a team. I know it must ruin people's entire day to lose seconds out of it. If anyone doesn't like this, they need to be talking to Bungie, they did this.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Kazuma:

Just change your nat type to closed so you can solo this. No need to grief people just trying to get stuff done and get yourself reported as well

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to take a few extra seconds, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Bungie did this, there is no reason that a person should spend a LOT more time building a team to save you a few seconds.

Edit: I have never tossed them out, but seen it and didn't care.

[Nibbie]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by Kazuma:

Just change your nat type to closed so you can solo this. No need to grief people just trying to get stuff done and get yourself reported as well

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to take a few extra seconds, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Bungie did this, there is no reason that a person should spend a LOT more time building a team to save you a few seconds.

Edit: I have never tossed them out, but seen it and didn't care.

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to find a team instead of selfishly wasting other people's time, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Goes both ways.

If you seriously think the person playing the objective correctly is in the wrong, take it up with Bungie. Since they improved the spawns, the runs I've done have had those enemies spawn at most of the points without such trolling, so I don't see why this should still be a thing. Like, even if you just don't throw the balls and only clear adds, it will probably take the 1-2 people doing it long enough that the special add will spawn naturally. No need to grief people over it.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Kazuma:

Originally posted by trukr:

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to take a few extra seconds, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Bungie did this, there is no reason that a person should spend a LOT more time building a team to save you a few seconds.

Edit: I have never tossed them out, but seen it and didn't care.

i did for all of forsaken and being a team player goes bothways your argument can just as easily be used to the people actively griefing others just trying to get the pug done. also ive never tossed them nor do i care if someone does but i draw the line at putting up a barrier to actively block people from tossing in the treasure

I never toss them, but it's not griefing people, it's how the game works. If you go too fast you miss out. The forum has been lit up about people rushing in strikes, now it's because they don't rush. I would never actively prevent others progressing, and don't like that, but I think it's selfish to complain about a few seconds to let someone else progress in getting their title. People trying to get Ruffians, could just as easily say the people rushing are griefing them, they are trying to do something the game was made to do and not bypass it.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Nibbie:

Originally posted by trukr:

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to take a few extra seconds, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Bungie did this, there is no reason that a person should spend a LOT more time building a team to save you a few seconds.

Edit: I have never tossed them out, but seen it and didn't care.

THIS, is the problem. Everyone wants to talk TEAM PLAYER until they don't. It takes a small amount of time, this is first world problems taken to the extreme. If you can't handle being a team player and having patience to find a team instead of selfishly wasting other people's time, maybe YOU should set your network up to play solo.

Goes both ways.

If you seriously think the person playing the objective correctly is in the wrong, take it up with Bungie. Since they improved the spawns, the runs I've done have had those enemies spawn at most of the points without such trolling, so I don't see why this should still be a thing. Like, even if you just don't throw the balls and only clear adds, it will probably take the 1-2 people doing it long enough that the special add will spawn naturally. No need to grief people over it.

I said it goes both ways. What makes a rusher objectively correct? The made them stop de-spawning, you can still go too fast for them to spawn. The fact that 2 people take long enough shows what I said is true, it's not a big deal, it's seconds and nothing to screech about. If you feel griefed over that, you need some thicker skin.

[Kattsylt]

Originally posted by Bing_Chilling:

yea, i'm one of them. I also cast a Titan bubble around it so others cant just throw and bank treasure..i strongly advise others to do the same. 2 people throwing treasure and casting bubble to prevent other player to bank gets the job done.

it's extremely annoying when you have 2 players wanting to farm ruffians and the other idiot is constantly banking treasure even when its blatantly obvious the others are trying to delay banking treasure. that extra time makes all the difference

also if you check sesson of plunder triumphs there is one triumph where you have to kill 250

Not sure why this would be obvious to some random player, a lot of them dont know about this.

[Delta]

Originally posted by Kazuma:

Just change your nat type to closed so you can solo this. No need to grief people just trying to get stuff done and get yourself reported as well

Yeah, just break the ToS and risk getting banned instead of playing within what we have to because of a terrible system.