Need more exotic weapons that buff their own weapon types

[Salted Rogue]

I feel like we need more exotic weapons that have a similar purpose to Gjallarhorn (Gives WPR to other legendary rocket launchers).

Exotic MG that gives other legendary MGs extra fire rate when continuously dealing damage/precision damage (similar to thunderlord windup) , or adds elemental verbs (weaken, volatile, suppression, jolt, etc) depending on the MG element.

Exotic LFR that allows other LFRs to converts all rounds in their current mag into a super shot (basically Izanagi), faster charge rate, or more damage on precision hits.

Exotic GL that gives other legendary GLs cluster bomb perk per shot, gives wave frame ability (similar to Dimensional Hypotrochoid) to each shot, or chain reaction.

These are just ideas and I am pretty sure Bungie will never do this as this with probably "encroach on Gjallarhorns role in dps situations" or something

[Jagdtiger]

They are definitely a cool idea, but generally having too many would be bad. Either they are balanced to suck, in which case they suck and who cares, or they are good enough that not using them becomes a handicap, at which point they inherently become a "must use" for that archetype of weapon, like gjally is on 99% of DPS setups, which quickly becomes stale if that escapes the dps and GM speedrunning meta and creeps into more general metas.

[Kylito]

Issue here is that allowing a single new weapon to buff every single other weapon in its type creates balance issues with pre-existing weapons that were balanced before.

Rockets were High B/Low A tier prior to Gjally being added, and even then, still were often outclassed by LFRs. The 15% Lightfall nerf would be fully undone if there was a new exotic that allowed them to deal anything above 15% more damage.

Each example given here would either be game breaking or unusable. Giving LMGs extra fire rate would be absurd when you consider options such as Retrofit Escapade or Commemoration.

Giving LFRs an Izzy shot would be insane, given how Izzy has no perks and yet is still S-tier for DPS, having a heavy ammo Izzy with Bait and Switch would allow for bonkers damage strats.

GLs are where rockets were prior to Gjally, so this is the one justifiable addition. But really a flat buff to the archetype would feel better.


TL;DR: Gjally has created a DPS meta where one player is always shoved into using a certain weapon, and replicating that for other weapon types would be problematic and lead to all DPS options feeling same-y and homogeneous.

[lamenting spongebob]

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

They are definitely a cool idea, but generally having too many would be bad. Either they are balanced to suck, in which case they suck and who cares, or they are good enough that not using them becomes a handicap, at which point they inherently become a "must use" for that archetype of weapon, like gjally is on 99% of DPS setups, which quickly becomes stale if that escapes the dps and GM speedrunning meta and creeps into more general metas.

Exactly this and the reason I'm annoyed Gjally exists
Two tailed fox is really fun, but Gjally can fire off two rockets quickly and they do it way better
The new hothead is coming out, looks SUPER dope, buuuuut there already exists a better solar rocket launcher, betcha can't guess the name
Eyes of Tomorrow? Yeah Gjally is still better
Gjallahorn is one of my least used exotics purely for the fact it's almost all I ever see in terms of heavy exotics.